Soldier For Yeshua wrote:
> On Feb 15, 9:09 pm, antimidas <antimidas...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> "Gnostic" <bardic26...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
innews:13rb7up9to7m510@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>> Rapture Ready - your prophecy resource for the end times
>>> The rapture of the Church will kick-off the tribulation. Make sure you
>>> are rapture ready.
>> Show me any biblical passages mentioning rapture.
>>
>> The Newness of the Doctrine
>> It may come as a surprise to many Christians, but the doctrine of the
>> Rapture is not mentioned in any Christian writings, of which we have
>> knowledge, until after the year 1830 A.D. Whether the early writers
were
>> Greek or Latin, Armenian or Coptic, Syrian or Ethiopian, English or
>> German, orthodox or heretic, no one mentioned a syllable about it. Of
>> course, those who feel the origin of the teaching is in the Bible would
>> say that it only ceased being taught (for some unknown reason) at the
>> close of the apostolic age only to reappear in 1830 A.D. But if the
>> doctrine were so clearly stated in Scripture, it seems incredible that
no
>> one should have referred to it before the 19th century. This does not
>> necessarily show that the teaching is wrong, but it does mean that
>> thousands of eminent scholars who lived over a span of seventeen
>> centuries (including some of the most astute of the "Christian Fathers"
>> and those of the Reformation and post-Reformation periods) must be
>> considered as prophetic dunces for not having understood so fundamental
a
>> teaching. We are not denigrating the doctrine in mentioning these
>> historical facts. That is not our intention. But we do feel that the
>> Foundation should show the historical problems associated with the
>> teaching. This lapse of seventeen centuries when no one mentioned
>> anything about it must be a serious obstacle to its reliability.
>>
>> Its Beginning
>> The result of a careful investigation into the origin of the Rapture
has
>> been recently published. The book is an excellent one which deserves to
>> be read by all people interested in the subject. Its title: "The
>> Unbelievable Pre-Trib Origin" by Dave MacPherson. He catalogs a great
>> deal of historical material which answers the doctrine's mysterious
>> derivation. We wish to review the results of his research. In the
middle
>> 1820's a religious environment began to be established among a few
>> Christians in London. England which proved to be the catalyst around
>> which the doctrine of the Rapture emerged. Expectations of the soon
>> coming of our Lord were being voiced, This was no new thing, but what,
>> was unusual was the teaching by a Presbyterian minister named Edward
>> Irving that there had to be a restoration of the spiritual gifts
>> mentioned in I Corinthians 12-14 just before Christ's second coming. To
>> Irving, the time had come for those spiritual manifestations to occur.
>> Among the expected gifts was the renewal of speaking in tongues and of
>> spirit-motivated prophetic utterances. Irving began to propagate his
>> beliefs. His oratorical skills and enthusiasm caused his congregation
in
>> London to grow. Then a number of people began to experience the
"gifts."
>> Once this happened opposition from the organized churches set in. It
>> resulted in Irving's dismissal from the Presbyterian church in 1832.
His
>> group then established themselves as the Catholic Apostolic Church and
>> continued the teachings of Irving.
>>
>> These events were the beginnings of what some call present day
>> Pentecostalism. Indeed Irving has been called by some church historians
>> "the father of modern Pentecostalism." What does all this have to do
with
>> the origin of the Rapture doctrine? Very much indeed. Let us look at
what
>> happened in the year 1830 -- two years before Irving's dismissal from
the
>> Presbyterian church. In that year a revival of the "gifts" began to be
>> manifested among a few people living in the lowlands of Scotland. They
>> experienced what they called the outpouring of the Spirit. It was
>> accompanied with speaking in "tongues" and other charismatic phenomena.
>> Irving had been preaching these things must occur, and now they were.
>>
>> On one particular evening. the power of the Holy Spirit was said to
have
>> rested on a Miss Margaret .Macdonald while she was in a state of
illness
>> at home. She was dangerously sick and thought she was dying. In spite
of
>> this (or perhaps because she is supposed to have come under "power" of
>> the spirit for several successive hours during which she experienced
the
>> manifestations of "mingled prophecy and vision." The message she
received
>> during this prophetic vision convinced her that Christ was going to
>> appear in two stages at His second coming -- and not one! The emanation
>> revealed that Christ would first come in glory to them that look for
Him
>> and again in a final stage when every eye would see Him. It was this
>> visionary experience of Miss Macdonald which represents the prime
source
>> of the modern Rapture doctrine as the historical evidence compiled by
Mr.
>> MacPherson abundantly shows.
>>
>> http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d760201.htm
>
> Sounds like the Rapture Bus had a flat tire with no spare.
Rapture always makes me think of Blondie...
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
I can haz Legion?
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