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Re: Look what's #1 on Google Video

by Gerry Armstrong <gerry@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 1, 2008 at 12:55 AM

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:36:58 -0500, eddieVroom
<eddievroom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>JAFAW wrote:
>
>> About the Fishman depo.
>> One of things that many people notice is that although he says some
bat****
>> crazy things (like anyone who has been in the cult for long enough), he
>> doesn't appear to be all that bat**** crazy himself. He always seemed
to me
>> to be a bit of a scienotech "anorak" more than anything else.
>
>Oh, yeah, if he were just some other guy talking about computers, he'd 
>be right at home at DefCon. Otherwise, everything he's saying is 
>conceptually consistent with Gnostic teachings as I understand them.
>
>I'll say it again: LRH ripped off OTO lock, stock and barrel. And 
>twisted it. It's like reading a copy of a copy.
>
>And it is clearly malevolent, IMO.

See:
http://carolineletkeman.org/sp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1187&Itemid=240

Lecture: Some Notes On Black Dianetics        
Socio-Political Subversion  
Hubbard says there was only Black Dianetics in 1945.
http://carolineletkeman.org/sp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1183&Itemid=165

In 1945, Hubbard met Jack Parsons, an explosives expert and head of
the OTO in Pasadena, California.  By early 1946, Hubbard had wormed
out of Parsons the highest secrets of the OTO, which include
instructions on how to turn elemental spirits into "familiars" or
slaves. See also: The Beast 666. 
http://carolineletkeman.org/sp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=426&Itemid=111

In this lecture, Hubbard remarks on a relation****p he had with such an
expert, although he doesn't mention Parsons by name.  Parsons died
from a mysterious explosive incident.

Hubbard claims that with Dianetics, it is possible to give someone a
post-hypnotic suggestion and make them go insane with a trigger that
would activate days or months later.

With the OTO's magical formulae, Hubbard had the tools to turn people
into "friends" and adapted them to recruit members into Scientology.
Scientology still uses these techniques. See: Ad: Dissemination and
Help. 
http://carolineletkeman.org/sp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=791&Itemid=182

A person can drive himself mad with Dianetics without any trouble.
What you have concentrated on in your study of Dianetics has been the
process of making people well. That is your emphasis line. But don’t
think for a moment that that is any more than half of it. There is as
much data on how to make people insane, uncomfortable, sick or dead as
there is on how to make them well. We ordinarily do not handle that
side of the data; we ordinarily do not look at it. But once in a
while, in order to learn something, it is necessary to look at it. 

Knowing the potentialities which are inherent in Dianetics, one is
rather aghast to look into the field and see the wild abandon with
which somebody will put out what he calls the “lollipop technique,”
which will wind a person up in a spinbin about as quick as scat!

This is something like the fellow who goes out and shoots oil wells.
There is a hole in the ground and something has happened down in this
hole that they don’t know anything about, so the way they fix up the
hole is by dropping some nitroglycerin in it. The nitroglycerin goes
down the hole and explodes down there, and after that maybe the hole
is all right and maybe it isn’t.

Now, the oil-well shooter will take a flask of nitroglycerin and put
it inhis pocket. He mixes up his nitroglycerin at home on his stove,
and- he doesn’t care about that. He will tell you, “Dynamite is safe;
you can light a cigar from dynamite.” As a matter of fact, I had one
of these fellows demonstrate to me one time that it was possible to
light a stick of dynamite and then light a cigarette from it. Nothing
to it!

What he was overlooking was that other people can’t do that. It isn’t
that familiarity breeds contempt but that he knows exactly how far he
can go; he knows what he can do with this stuff. He knows that you
don’t drop nitroglycerin on concrete. He also knows that when he picks
up a notebook, for instance, and puts it in his pocket, his chances of
dropping that notebook are very slight. So he picks up the
nitroglycerin and puts it in his pocket; he knows his chances of being
hit in the side are very slight. So he just says, “Those are the odds
against it,” and life is all very comfortable and he goes on.

Now, the funny part of it is, the oil-well shooter would say, “Well,
dynamite will burn! Ten percent dynamite will burn. You touch a match
to ten-percent  dynamite and it will burn just like sawdust, and you
can light a cigarette with it.” Then you start to do it and the
dynamite blows up and they pick your head up someplace else.

Part of his technology is that you can always burn fresh dynamite. He
just left out one adjective. And the dynamite you picked up was a
couple of years old and all the nitroglycerin had settled in one end
of it. That was the end you lit.

There is a case of familiarity with a subject. These shooters very
seldom kill themselves, very seldom have accidents.

It is the same with a Dianetic auditor: He has looked at engrams, he
has looked at preclears, he has looked at screamers; he knows what he
is going after, what he can do with it and what he can’t do with it,
more or less. So he throws his preclears on the couch and runs them
into this and out of that and maybe sticks them up in something; then
he says, “Well, that’s all right, they don’t go nuts—not for
twenty-four hours. I’ll get that tomorrow.” In short, he shows a wild
abandon with the subject. But he is operating within known limits.
Even a fair knowledge of Dianetics lets you operate within those known
limits.

[...]

As long as you practice something remotely resembling Standard
Procedure, as long as you know there is a time track, as long as you
know you ought to keep chasing the preclear through the incident until
it finally desensitises, as long as you know enough never to lose your
nerve, you can’t do anybody very much damage—unless you go over onto
the side of complete Black Dianetics.

With Black Dianetics, you could tailor-make any kind of insanity you
wanted to. The person might not manifest this the next day, maybe not
the next week or maybe not for thirty days. Maybe three months later
he is walking down the street and feeling a little bit tired when
somebody honks an auto horn just right or something of the sort, and
all of a sudden he goes crazy, and there he is—insane! Or terribly
sick and uncomfortable.

So they take him off and put him in a spinbin and put electrodes on
him and then they push big levers and he goes into a convulsion and
breaks his spine, breaks his jaw, and so forth. In other words, one
can expect the maximum of cooperation from psychiatry in Black
Dianetics. They will bury what has already been planted, and they will
bury it deeply. This is rather brutal, isn’t it?

You could put a little book down in Czechoslovakia called “How to
Drive People Insane: PDH” filled with various kinds of insanity and
how to plant it to really make it good. You could drop this book into
the hands of a thousand people in Czechoslovakia and a thousand people
in Poland, and you could go in on the other side and make sure some
copies were in Chinese, and then hire a private jet pilot and have him
go over at seventy thousand feet and drop a few on
Moscow. 

Sooner or later, some muzhik who has seen the little book is going to
watch Colonel Umphbumski come down the steps of the beer hall full of
vodka and very drunk. Maybe this little muzhik is the carriage driver,
and as he drives along he notices that the colonel is asleep.  “Well,
what do you know. The colonel is asleep. This is too good to miss—Hap!
‘Stalin is against me . . .”’ and so on.

In other words, no high-ranking officer and no political entity is
safe in a world where a technique of this character exists. You
couldn’t wipe out the Foundation now and stop this technology from
existing and you couldn’t wipe me out and stop it from existing; it is
already out! You couldn’t go around and propagandise against it
because that would just popularize it. You can’t stop an idea with
sixteen-inch armor plate. 

Unfortunately, Black Dianetics is inherent in Dianetics. In 1945, this
was all the Dianetics there was—how to drive people crazy, how to foul
up political systems, how to restimulate individuals just by talking
to them—without planting engrams—and in addition to this, how to
interrupt life force in an individual. We haven’t gone into that very
much. It is a wonderfully smooth way of committing murder. 

I am mentioning this because somebody may ask you, “What could
possibly be dangerous about Dianetics?” I am telling you what could be
dangerous about it.

That was all it had risen to back in 1945. It became absolutely
necessary in 1948 and 1949, when these techniques were released to
psychiatry and to medicine, to release them much more widely.

— L. Ron Hubbard
Lecture 17 September 1951: Some Notes On Black Dianetics
The Darker Side of the Picture 

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
 




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Re: Look what's #1 on Google Video
eddieVroom <eddievroom  2008-01-31 19:36:58 
Re: Look what's #1 on Google Video
Gerry Armstrong <gerry  2008-02-01 00:55:32 

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