Re: America As We've Known It Is Finished

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:05:40 -0800, in alt.atheism 
Gunner <gunner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:45:27 -0600, Free Lunch <lunch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>wrote:
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>>>
>>>Your diversion with some drivel about pasta is noted.
>>>
>>>Atheism is indeed a faith based belief system.  It proudly proclaims
>>>that there is NO god, has never been a god, and there can never be a
>>>god.
>>
>>Your claim is false. Atheists do not believe in gods. That is all. Some
>>may choose to take the next logical step and draw the conclusion that no
>>gods exist since no evidence sup****ts any claims about gods existing,
>>but that is not necessary for atheism.
>
>Odd..then why are atheists so vehement in their disdain for those that
>do believe?  If it was of little concern for your lot..you would
>simply shrug and drive on.

Most of them aren't, but they get tired of being harrassed by so-called
Christians who refuse to take no for an answer. They are vehement in
their disdain for their rude, ignorant, self-righteous behavior. Stop
telling lies to atheists and they will treat you nicely.

>But no...you are as fanatical as any Spaniard during the Inquisition.
>And as cruel to those that don't share your Bleeves.  Heretics all.

Nope. I get along very well with many Christians. I just don't put up
with lies from dishonest proselytizers.

>>>All based on Zero evidence of any of the above.
>>
>>Since there is zero evidence, there is no reason to believe in any gods.
>
>Faith.  A very good reason for many people.

Faith is not evidence. The lack of evidence is commonly a stumbling
block. 

>>>Just like the most fervent religious person, who may actually believe
>>>based on perceived interactions between himself and a god (belief as a
>>>result of witnessing something apparently divine).
>>>
>>>The Atheist has No evidence either way, yet fervently believes.
>>
>>No, repeating your erroneous claim will not make it true.
>
>Your blind denial is noted.

I don't blindly deny. I refuse to accept your unsubstantiated claims and
your self-righteous hypocrisy about it.

>>>This would be like a person believing that there are NO Tibetans, has
>>>Never been any Tibetans, nor could there ever be Tibetans, simply
>>>because he has never seen one, or never having been to Tibet.
>>>
>>>The Agnostic, is the only logical person, with his "I don't know"
>>>belief.
>>
>>Both believers and unbelievers can be agnostic or gnostic. Gnosis is a
>>different problem.
>
>Sure they can. But Fanatical Bleevers such as yourself...well..that's
>another story.

You keep telling that lie. It will continue to be a lie every time you
tell it. Maybe your god needs lies told about him because there are no
truths that can be told.

>>>So yes, Atheism is just another faith based belief system, all
>>>protestations and swerves off into pasta theory to the contrary.
>>
>>You are mistaken, still.
>
>Your denial, and your opinion, is noted with amusement. Like watching
>a retarded child claiming he is actually a genius.

If we can tell Christians by their behavior instead of their mere claim
to be Christians, there's no danger that anyone would assume you are a
Christian. Who taught you to be the kind of religious zealot that Jesus
condemned?
-- 

"Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel 
to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy 
Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should 
take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in 
which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh 
it to scorn." -- Augustine, The Literal Meaning of Genesis