On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:50:14 -0800 (PST), Mariachi
<jpgarcia153@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On Nov 30, 8:28 pm, Christopher A.Lee <ca...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:15:08 -0800 (PST), Mariachi
>>
>>
>>
>> <jpgarcia...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >On Nov 30, 7:49 pm, Christopher A.Lee <ca...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:47:36 -0800 (PST), Mariachi
>>
>> >> <jpgarcia...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> And let me be clear, I am not promoting atheism -- for if I had
to die
>> >> >> in a hot box from global warming, I would rather die with the
>> >> >> Christians praying than with the atheists cursing.
>>
>> >> >> See:
>>
>> >> >> "What the hell would we need 'spiritual values' for when we can
have
>> >> >> real values."
>>
>> >> >>http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=509.0.
>>
>> >> >I agree with a lot of your statements, but you cannot choose both
>> >> >sides according to Christianity. You must choose to accept Christ
or
>> >> >you do not choose to accept Christ.
>>
>> >> Why do you morons imagine there is anything to choose, in the real
>> >> world outside your religion?
>>
>> >> Nobody "chooses" not to believe, they simply have no reason to
>> >> believe.
>>
>> >> >If you believe that people believe in God because they are foolish
and
>> >> >they are the people that are ruining this country by voting for
Bush
>> >> >and his neo-con friends, then you are terribly wrong. There are a
lot
>> >> >of smart Christians in the world who do not believe every single
word
>> >> >that is fed to them by the "conservative" media. And they also see
>> >> >right through the democrats also. As far as I'm concerned, neither
>> >> >party impressed me in terms of morality or fiscal responsibility.
A
>> >> >lot of Christians can see right through Bush, Fox news, and other
>> >> >"conservative" propaganda that has political overtones.
Personally, I
>> >> >don't really think we should link government with religion anymore.
>> >> >Every time some politician brags about how holy they are and say
crazy
>> >> >stuff like "It's Gods will to spread freedom across the world", you
>> >> >know that they are using Christianity to manipulate the m*****.
Satan
>> >> >disguised himself as an angel of light, does that mean Satan is
holy?
>> >> >No. That goes for all politicians who use Christianity as a means
for
>> >> >their own political agenda. They are masqueraders. Sorry bit off
>> >> >topic
>>
>> >> Why do you morons invent "reasons" people don't have?
>>
>> >> There is a real world outside your religion. Live with it.
>>
>> >> >There is more to it than meets the eye when someone is a truly
devoted
>> >> >Christian. You will see it in the actions, their love for other
>> >> >people, their humility, etc... It is because their heart has
genuinely
>> >> >changed by accepting Christ dominion in their life. It is not some
>> >> >fairy tale to them, Christ is the purpose of life to them, or
Christ
>> >> >is Life to them. Christians love, not because they loved God
first,
>> >> >but because God loved them first.
>>
>> >> We see it in their deluded fantasies, which include their inability
to
>> >> think outside the box so they rudely and stupidly talk as though
their
>> >> beliefs had been proven to be real.
>>
>> >Apparently you have never thought outside the box calling Christians
>> >delusional.
>>
>> What box, liar? This is the real world where yours is merely one of
>> hundreds of other religious beliefs.
>>
>> And I would even know you were delusional if you had the common sense
>> and courtesy to keep it to yourself.
>>
>> > I will not ridicule anyones religion,
>>
>> Neither do I IF THEY KEEP IT TO THEMSELVES.
>>
>> Unfortunately Christians are too stupid to realise that one man's
>> religion is another man's belly laugh, to quote Robert Anson Heinlein.
>>
>> > I will just present
>> >Christianity as it is in the bible.
>>
>> If you had the intelligence to think outside the box you would know
>> that the Bible is irrelevant outside your religion.
>>
>> > Have you ever reviewed the
>> >evidence?
>>
>> What "evidence", moron?
>>
>> > Why are you so quick to say that Christianity does not have
>> >a factual basis?
>>
>> So prove it, moron, instead of presuming that everybody else should.
>>
>> Until you do that it is not substantively different than any of the
>> other religions. Its believers take it seriously and stupidly imagine
>> the rest of the world should grant its doctrinal tenets.
>>
>> > If you are so open-minded, I would hate to see what
>> >close-minded is.
>>
>> Where "open minded" means stupid and gullible.
>>
>> > As it stands, the Holy Bible has been a guide for
>> >billions of people throughout the years, yet you dismiss Christianity
>> >as pure delusional fantasy.
>>
>> You demonstrate it is, moron.
>>
>> > Christianity is the only religion in
>> >which God came to earth to save us.
>>
>> Where did you demonstrate the existence of this hypothetical "God" to
>> do that in the real world outside your religion, before rudely and
>> stupidly presuming?
>>
>> > It is not a quest to search for
>> >God and the purpose of life,
>>
>> Where did you demonstrate its real-world existence to be searched for,
>> question-begging moron?
>>
>> > because it mentions what the purpose of
>> >life is.
>>
>> Who gives a flying **** what something as irrelevant as SOMEBODY
>> ELSE'S RELIGION has to say?
>>
>> > You do not have to earn your way to God in Christianity, you
>>
>> More question-begging stupidity.
>>
>> >just have to believe what God did for you.
>>
>> Where did you demonstrate its existence in the real world outside your
>> religion, moron?
>>
>> > I challenge you to have an
>> >open mind and read the book of John in the bible.
>>
>> What the **** has the book of John in the Bible got to do with
>> anything?
>>
>> And why the lie about "open mind" when you really mean "believe it
>> already"?
>>
>> I challenge YOU to start thinking for a change.
>>
>> Are you really so stupid you don't understand that in the real world
>> outside your religion, the Bible is merely the scriptures of SOMEBODY
>> ELSE'S religion?
>
>If you believe that Christianity is such a fraud, then why do you even
>bother to reply to my "nonsense". You apparently are somewhat curious
>on what the purpose of life is, so I am just presenting my case to
>you.
Why don't you learn (a) to read, and (b) to stop lying.
>If you want, read the book:
II want YOU to have the intelligence not to presume your religion's
tenets in the real world outside your religion, to people you know
don't already believe.
>The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict Fully Updated To Answer The
>Questions Challenging Christians Today (Hardcover)
Don't be so ****ing stupid.
Do you seriously imagine you're the first stupid Christian to imagine
this tripe should convince anybody with more than half a brain?
Heck, it even embarr***** thinking Christians.
MacDowell is another idiot who tries to use inside-the-religion
presumptions to "prove" it in the real world outside it.
A prime example is the Lord/Liar/Lunatic idiocy where he offers his
preferred alternative and two emotionally loaded alternatives designed
to be dismissed immediately by believers.
He ignores a whole slew of more likely ones, as well as presuming the
veracity of the Bible.
Which you already know is worthless as "proof" of anything to non-
Christians for exactly the same reason the Hindu scriptures are
worthless to you.
Why don't you try thinking for a change?
>http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Demands-Questions-Challenging-Christians/dp/0785243631
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