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> On Nov 22, 12:54 pm, "David H" <fe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Immortalist" <reanimater_2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > On Nov 22, 6:06 am, V <vf...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> Without spiritual values, the atheist is sunk. The conundrum of the
>> >> mind manacled, defiance based, spiritually sick atheist is this.
They
>> >> need spiritual values to be at peace - yet their own defiance blocks
>> >> them from seeking and finding these values.
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>> >> The atheist that only has a foundation of ego and hate will never
find
>> >> peace. If any theist questioning their faith should wonder onto
>> >> alt.atheism, for instance, they could see this for themselves with
>> >> many spiritually sick example members and their projection of this
>> >> spiritual sickness and self hate onto others.
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>> >> What is missing in these atheists lives?
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>> >> Do they need to get religion?
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>> >> Not necessarily.
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>> >> As we see, many people claiming to be religious are just as bad off
as
>> >> atheists or sometimes worse.
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>> >> "People that practice religion are worried about going to hell -
>> >> people that practice spirituality have already been to hell and
don't
>> >> want to go back."
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>> >> Spiritual values is what they are short on.
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>> > What is a spiritual value?
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>> A spiritual value is nothing. This "spiritual" **** is just a lazy
>> way
>> to keep from contemplating conciousness to the point of realizing it
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> If a religious person is experiencing what he or she believes is a
> spiritual value, is this a false label for what you label
> contemplation?
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I read somewhere a statement that went someting like this: "Belief
is
insubstantial. One can only *know things to varying degrees of certainty."
Spiritual values? Which spirit, and what value?
Can we not simply take owner****p of our own good and evil?
I think it's quaint that the term is "Believers" and not "Knowers".
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>> > How are they different from other values?
>> > If the activities of the brain, which are identical to spiritual
>> > values can become active by other value systems, whats the
difference,
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