On May 9, 4:56=A0am, "Rich" <deadm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Etznab wrote:
> > Rich,
>
> > =A0 =A0Are you sure that was chapter 6 of The Far Country
> > which talked about the "no-thing" experience? Can you
> > give a page number? Or a quote?
>
> > =A0 =A0I saw that chapter 9 talked about the "no-thing" un-
> > iverse.
>
> Yes, my mistake.
>
> Chapter 9 page 179-180 =A0 1990 printing
>
> "One of the things that is much talked about in spiritual circles is
> intuition. This is the power of knowing, the power of obtaining knowing
> without the senses, without recourse to the inference of reasoning; an
> innate, instinctive knowledge.
>
> "This faculty is connected with the no-thing universe. Ordinarily it is
> supposed to mean inner-teaching, inner instruction as given by some kind
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> higher inner self.
>
> "The word intuition means however to look in, to gaze into, see and
> understand immediately. To know by looking inwardly. In other words to
> project oneself by looking inwardly and understanding immediately what
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is
> we are seeking. In order to understand the no-thing universe we must
rely =
on
> intuition, as all ECK travelers do. It is started by joining, or hooking
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p
> the forces between Soul within you and the no-thing world within, and
> without. The working together of the subjective self with the forces of
th=
e
> no-thing world will start working out the kinks between this region and
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u.
>
> "The forces of the no-thing world will begin to suggest the right course
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or
> the outer to take, reason over and adapt for use. The object is to bring
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> two faculties into balance and give the forces of the no-thing world the
> edge-but nothing too much, for it would be quite unreasonable to let
this
> faculty rule you completely in this matter-real world; yet on the other
ha=
nd
> it knows far more about straightening out the problems of life than you
> would ever know.
>
> "The idea is not to follow it blindly. Learn to pay attention to it and
th=
en
> use what information it brings to your attention. You have use of it at
> anytime, anywhere. It's only that the power of the no-thing world is
there=
> and must be used whenever you need it.
>
> "What actually happens is that you can furnish the channel for it to
flow
> through your life-and when that channel is open, when there is nothing
> blocking it-that higher-inner faculty can function readily to tell you
> something which can't be gained from any amount of outer, man made logic
o=
r
> reasoning."
Rich,
That was quite an impressive chapter. Chapter 9
in The Far Country. Until I got near the end and the
"no-thing" was associated with Kal Niranjan.
" 'So you see that the Lord of this world, Kal Niranjan,
is almost on the human level. He is the God of the no-
thing universe, what we are calling space. He is the
space God, sky, a god over the world of nothingness.' "
[The Far Country, p. 186, 8th printing 1983]
I was sort of perplexed (to say the least) looking at
the latter part of the chapter and comparing it with the
former. It seemed like the whole subject got turned on
its head, bent and twisted.
In an attempt to clarify and make better sense out
of what Rebazar Tarzs dictated to Paul, I might want
to highlight this one snippet of a quote:
" '.... In order to understand the no-thing universe
we must rely on intuition, as all ECK travelers do.
It is started by joining, or hooking up the forces
between Soul within you and the no-thing world
within, and without. The working together of the
subjective self with the forces of the no-thing world
will start working out the kinks between this region
and you.' "
The key words (IMO) are "It is started by ...."
Also, it helped me to consider that the Astral are
part of the subjective worlds. Where one might "start"
to explore them.
Rebazar, Paul - or whoever was dictating the material -
seemed to allow for a tangent to start di****ng the Kal. It
began at a most peculiar place, if you ask me. Just after
the meeting with the teacher between the Sun & Moon
worlds was explained (my brackets inserted here):
" ' It is the meeting with his own teacher, a superior,
experienced spiritual traveler [doesn't say Eck Master
or Mahanta] in his radiant form. This is the traveler's
Nuri-Sarup or light form. It is your Chiva, or Guru, app-
earing just as he does in physical life, except that his
body is now much more beautiful and full of light, brill-
iantly illuminated [It's somewhat curious that Rebazar
doesn't use the terms Living Eck Master or Mahanta
here?].
"The Chiva receives the neophyte traveler with a cordial
welcome and from that moment on the two are never sep-
arated throughout the journey to still higher regions, until
the neophyte reaches the fifth region, the Sat Nam world.
By now he is experienced and can travel upon his own.' "
[The Far Country p. 186, 8th printing]
It was as if the subject had come to a conclusion there
[a subject that was probably described by Julian Johnson
in The Path of the Masters, and probably a half-a-hundred
other people writing about the subject of student and Guru
meetings and their relation****p], but instead of starting a
new chapter, or new section of a chapter marked off by
asteriks, the very next paragraph goes on to illustrate:
" 'So you see that the Lord of this world, Kal Niranjan,
is almost on the human level. He is the God of the no-
thing universe, what we are calling space. He is the
space God, sky, a god over the world of nothingness.' "
This is a critical divide in the chapter, IMO. Because
at first the intuition and the no-thing universe are (IMO)
talked about as "the way to go", so to speak. Then it
later mentions the pure astral zone and a meeting be-
tween the neophyte traveler and superior, experienced
spiritual traveler. Suddenly then, it seems to me, this
subject takes a dramatic turn and begins to focus on
Kal. It goes on di****ng the Kal for almost evey para-
graph in the rest of the chapter, and it appears to ass-
ociate the "no-thing" universe with the Kal, or what is
generally understood (in Eckankar dogma) to represent
the "negative" power. On p. 187, Rebazar Tarzs says:
" 'Therefore I say that in the world of space, or no-thing,
there are no principles or laws except those of the Kal.
There are only the exhibitionists, because the world has
made them so. Principles, theories, ideas are the masks
of the instincts, the innate craving of the ego-vividness,
blown to bits by the winds of the no-thing universe.' "
*********
I wanted to surmise that Kal was just a beginning
place of the "no-thing" universe and not the totality
of it - in order to clarify and better understand what
was being said here. It's somewhat hard to take this
perspective though after looking at all the paragraphs
about Kal following the "critical divide" I mentioned.
Does anybody else see this differently? What is
the meaning of this?
For now, I still want to considewr the "no-thing"
universe - talked about in The Far Country - that
it was probably symbolic for all the inner planes.
This was chapter 9 entitled: THE NO-EXISTENCE
OF SPACE.
I have for a copyright the year 1971 for the book
The Far Country. However, that was also the year
its "stated" author, Paul Twitchell, died. Was it an-
nother one of his "unfinished" books where some-
one had to take the material and try to patch it all
together? I can't say that was the case, and I don't
know for sure that it is. I only know this chapter -
in some respects - looks quite topsy-turvy. Not
like the number 9 after you turn it upside down
and it looks like a 6, but more along the lines of
a bunch of different material trying to weave itself
into the form of a single homogenous cloth. IMO.
Etznab
PS I believe Julian Johnson died before fini****ng
that book he wrote called Path of the Masters.
Something about falling down & hitting his head
on a rock (according to the version I remember).
Paul Twitchell, on the other hand, died about a
year after allegedly drinking poison that some-
body secretly put into his drink.
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