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A little bit heavier on the  skanky guru 'trash' literature, and
refurbished 
retrashed wannabe guru stuff in a.r.e. these days.  Maybe it's just due
for 
a burn-off of underbrush.

The days of tracts are over and now replaced with links to the holy grail,

or at least what people think is the "answer."

Religion and gurus look so weird when you' hanven't had to deal with them 
for awhile.  Like looking at clothes from the 1970's ;-).

Other than Rich are there any other old-timer around?  No, Turner doesn't 
count ;-).   Old means from more than a decade back?  I know I"m pu****ng
it 
aren't I? ;-\.

csk