Etznab wrote:
> On Apr 20, 2:40 pm, "Rich" <deadm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Ken wrote:
>>> History, time, belief and reality are all subjective.
>>
>>> History is just a story someone tells. There is no
>>> definitively objective history available since any story told
>>> must be filtered through someone's perspective.
>>
>>> Time is not a linear continuum even though it looks like one
>>> from the standard human viewpoint. It's just an arbitrary
>>> measurement of experience.
>>
>>> Belief is harmony.
>>
>>> Reality is belief in history and in personal experience through
>>> time.
>>
>> Reality is an illusion limited to the human consciousness.
>
> I gather that Paul Twitchell wrote about this subject, and
> according to the knowledge he acquired (not that Paul was
> the only person to have acquired knowledge, or then chose
> to share [give out] what he first took in).
>
> One of his quotes from Letters to Gail (July 10, 1963) read:
>
> ".... The realm of knowledge seems unlimited in its wide, vast
> depths of data on this plane alone, but even so it has a limitation
> because all it is doing is a repeat of the original, and alter-ising
> the appearance of what it might be. The changing, or adding to
> the piece of original data is called alter-ising, as you remember
> in the letter on the Four Conditions of Life!"
>
> *********
>
> To some extent I relate to the subjectivity of history. At the
> same time I like to contemplate the reality of records on the
> Casual and Soul Planes.
Soul plane?... where there is no matter, energy, time or space.
> It would be my guess that a person could look at history, or
> the "original", via Soul Travel.
I don't think there is such a thing as one "original", except one's own
unique perception. IOW while groups of people might agree on an original
version of history, even those that lived it would see it differently 'as
it
happened'.
> Both from the Casual level and
> the Soul Level, but not totally remember it consciously. Never-
> the-less, the information and the experience, IMO, could have
> its effect with the physical body.
>
> Though I don't remember where the quote is, Paul Twitchell
> in one of his writings talked about Soul Travel & how a person
> might not remember it after coming back to the physical state
> of consciousness. Intuition might have figured into the picture
> as well.
>
> That was a somewhat unusual read, as I had the idea that
> Soul Travel was always a conscious experience.
I'd say Soul is always conscious of it's manifestations. It's the
manifestations that can't see out of their own 'realms'.
> But maybe
> Paul was explaining Soul Travel from a particular perspective.
> I also remember another place where it appeared to say one
> does not "travel" on the Soul Plane, but "travel" applies to the
> lower planes only.
Yes, and that's my experience.
> At any rate, I'm attempting to add more insight about this
> subject of history. For example, a person who wants to see
> the "original" of history according to records on the Causal,
> or even the Soul Plane, I imagine that their inner travels can
> reflect that desire by taking them to areas where the inform-
> ation is stored.
Again I see a dilemma with this. Taking the classic example of a car
accident. Which "original" history does one choose? The drivers',
passenger's or those that observed it as bystanders? Worse, these can
change... "alter-ising". What I'm getting at is the fluid nature of all
'stored information'.
> And if one doesn't recall everything that took
> place there, does it mean a person hasn't absorbed any of it?
Of course not. In your example the person's memory or perception was
limited
by the emotions or mind's, but is Soul's experience limited? My point is
that the more expanded the POV, the less something will be perceived as
fixed. Can Soul absorb all of it; infinite originals? I don't think so.
Why?
It doesn't absorb. It already IS infinite.
> I know that many times when I want information on a part
> of history, or a subject in general, it will come if I hold to the
> desire long enough and imagine "as if" that were actually
> possible. Sometimes answers appear to come by way of a
> book, a televison program, or through the words of another.
> But how does a person know what corresponds to the truth?
> I think a part of the answer comes by looking at the "original"
> on the "inner" planes and later recognizing a corresponding
> facet of the "original data" in the records of history (knowledge)
> on the physical plane.
Excellent technique for sure. Certainly in whatever way one can get a
broader view, they better the understanding. Yet my experience is that the
more inclusive I Am, the less I find validity to pin something down to the
physical.
> A "dream" can contain a lot of information, but what good
> can it do in a person's physical life if they can't remember it?
> But this is where "correspondence" and "analogy" come
> into play, IMO. Like when something in the physical reminds
> you about a single piece of a forgotten dream, and from that
> single piece the awareness of what was "forgot" can start to
> unfold.
>
> On the history timeline I keep, one of the things I did was
> to try and store just enough information from each century,
> decade or year to bring back the memory of other events in
> that time period. Songs are a good example, IMO. Listing
> the year when a particular song first came out and started
> playing on the radio.
>
> There was something about music, and knowledge that
> a person takes in at the same time when listening to music.
> I think it was said that college students studying for exams
> did better on tests if they listened to music while studying -
> and then played back the same music when taking the test.
> Somehow the information was easier to recall when accom-
> panied by the music.
>
> The higher self, or Soul, I would say, is a higher state of
> conscious compared with the limited physical senses. The
> awareness available to Soul might not be the same that is
> present in the physical everyday life. However, by singing
> certain mantras, listening to music, reading certain books
> and even watching TV and other people talk, I believe that
> the awareness of Soul can - under certain cir***stances -
> "come through" to the physical much more easily.
Another way to look at those manifestations of Light and Sound is that
they
help mute or filter out the lower perceptions leaving a more 'clean'
conscious awareness _as_ Soul.
> Again, I suspect that "correspondences" and "analogy"
> can serve like fundamental components in the process of
> "remembering" experiences from one plane to another.
> The mind itself - recording things symbolically - seems to
> indicate a similar process at work. In other words, things
> from one plane (or state of consciousness) interpreted by
> the senses of another "lower" one. Finding out meanings
> and decoding the symbols can serve to reconstitute the
> "original data" to some extent, IMO. This is why I like to
> look at history, and the history of words. To understand
> better the "original" meaning behind what appears to me
> like in the form of "symbols".
In my mind that decoding is definitely a pleasing challenge and endeavor.
While not necessarily focused with history(although I do love the History
Channel), but with most things I like to exercise my mind.
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