Q: "Was there a Living ECK Master before 1965?"
HK: "Yes, there was. This was Sudar Singh from
India who died in the 1940s. Then Rebazar Tarzs,
the torchbearer of the leader****p of ECK who had
been the Living ECK Master some time before,
came in. He took the leader****p until 1965, when
Paul Twitchell had earned the right. Paul Twitchell
had to earn it, as did all the others. There has been
an unbroken succession of ECK Masters that goes
quite far back. Some of them are described in 'The
Spiritual Notebook.' [....]"
[Based on: How To Find God, p. 162]
OK. So why doesn't Sudar Singh appear on the
Masters page at the official Eckankar website?
http://www.eckankar.org/Masters/index.html
Wasn't Sudar Singh the Eck Master who told
Paul Twitchell about Rebazar Tarzs? In other
words, wasn't it Sudar Singh who taight and led
Paul to the teachings of Eckankar?
"The master teachings were revealed to me during
my early youth by out-of-body projection in an am-
azing revelation via the dream state.
"These teachings were brought in a series of
dreams by the great mystic, Sudar Singh, at his
ashram in Allahabad, India where my stepsister
had gone after a two-year stay in Paris studying
to be an artist which she never fulfilled in this life.
I was taken along with her although fourteen years
old at the time and much younger than she.
"Sri Sudar Singh, who was a member of the famed
Vairagi mystic order of adepts, had his abode in the
spiritual city of Agam Des in the western Himalaya
mountains. He was a master at instructing his chelas
by the dream state, his principal way of teaching.
Outwardly he appeared to be a smiling old guru in
a deep maroon robe who would sit in silence when
meeting with his chelas at his ashram, speaking only
when questions were asked of him."
[Based on: ECKANKAR, Compiled Writings, Vol. 1
(Copyright 1975 by Gail T. Gross), by Paul Twitchell,
p. 79]
"This year in India was not spent totally in an
attitude of holy learning. Paul had reached his
sixteenth birthday, and he decided that he needed
a furlough from the ashram. He traveled to Bombay,
put up in a hotel, and then set out in search of a
holy man who Sudar Singh had said was extremely
wise in the ways of God."
[Based on: IN MY SOUL I AM FREE , by Brad
Steiger (Copyright 1968?), p. 53]
"[....] Paul was learning how to put the truths he
found on the inner planes into writing. He had a
very difficult time figuring out a way to present
Eckankar to this society. The earliest mention
of his use of the word Eckankar was about 1960
or 1961. He said he had come across the teachings
through Sudar Singh in a general way as early as
1935, then studied them in depth with Rebazar
Tarzs starting in 1951. But the teachings were
difficult for him to bring out, because nobody
cared. [....]"
[Based on: Article (Getting the ECK Message
Out) by Harold Klemp]
http://www.eckankar.org/Masters/Peddar/man.html#training
*********
OK, so besides not having a mention on the
Masters page mentioned earlier, what about in
the new illustrated Eckankar display for use at
Vahana events? Is Sudar Singh's picture there?
Maybe I missed it.
What happened to the history of Sudar Singh?
I've cataloged several examples of places in
the early writings by Paul Twitchell where the
name Kirpal Singh appeared, before it changed
to Sudar Singh!
OK. So Sudar Singh introduced Paul Twitchell
to Eckankar and told him about Rebazar Tarzs -
and this is the general story based on illustrations
I have seen.
Sudar Singh looks like an Eck Master revelant
to the teachings of Eckankar according to some
of the written Eckankar history. So why no place
on the Masters page? Why no picture on the new
display? (Again, maybe I just missed it.)
Was Sudar Singh Kirpal Singh? Is this why?
Did history move from Kirpal Singh, to Sudar
Singh, to Rebazar Tarzs?
*********
Some thoughts from others about the history
of Eckankar and/or Eck Masters:
"Therefore, when Kirpal changed his attitude toward
Paul, and Paul began to remove Kirpal's name from
his writings, replacing it with Sudar Singh or Rebazar
Tarzs, Paul also began to see a whole new direction
for his teaching of ECKANKAR. It was one wholly
connected to an inner source, not tied to history or
tradition, or even his own past. [....]" (See: link for
context)
Based on: http://www.littleknownpubs.com/Dialog_Ch_Five.htm
"We are making an effort to construct a physical
history of ECKANKAR, looking for actual physical
records to verify the existence of some of the ECK
Masters in a way that historians of the future will be
able to accept; something beyond just the words of
one of the Living ECK Masters of the past. It will be
vital for the survival of ECKANKAR as a religious
teaching in the future.
"As we began research in a number of different
areas around the world, we got re****ts that Sudar
Singh had lived and really was an ECK Master.
Many ECKists have experiences with Rebazar
Tarzs, Yaubl Sacabi, Fubbi Quantz, and other
ECK Masters, but very few see Sudar Singh.
As it turns out, he did live and work in Allahabad.
Paul mentioned he died around the 1940s, but it
seems to have been around 1955.
"The research we do today will someday be ****ed
over by historians. They will get into great debates
about this or that crisis, about this or that person.
We are living the historical moments today, and
whatever later historians want to make of it for their
own unfoldment is up to them. For now, we continue
to live our lives in the mainstream of Spirit."
[Based on: Harold Klemp, The Secret Teachings,
p. 246]
*********
In research that was/is done, did research
take into account the number of times Kirpal
Sing's name was replaced with Sudar Singh?
Or, how many times Eckankar knew about &
sup****ted these changes?
In the research, was it taken into account
that Paul Twitchell apparently did not go to
Paris France, where he re****tedly met Sudar
Singh in the first place (not to mention Paul's
alleged stay at his ashram in India)?
In the research, was it taken into account
the number of times when Kirpal Singh and
Rebazar Tarzs were mentioned in stories &
history of Paul Twitchell's past that earlier
gave the name Kirpal Singh instead?
In other words, did Eckankar search its
own history or take into account archives
in its own possession that illustrated the
recorded facts?
*********
This was a relatively short summary on
the subject of Sudar Singh, etc. And it gave
only a small amount of examples so as not
to be too overwhelming. Suffice it to say, I
believe it was enough to introduce a picture
that I've been contemplating for more than a
few years.
Some people don't like to look at these
examples of history (IMO) and/or the others
like them. And for Eckankar members who
come across them for the very first time -
as I did years ago - what is the answer
from Eckankar about any of this?
I'll leave this last question open. Would any-
one care to share [members, & ex-members]
what answers they found from Eckankar (in
the form of words, writings, illustration, etc.)
about this?
I know that history changes over time. The
way it is written and remembered. However,
do the events themselves actually change?
I mean the truth as it was before the edits,
revisions and/or deletions?
The topic for this thread came about after
again looking at Sudar Singh. Looking at a
timeline with compiled quotes & information
on this character in chronilogical order and
spanning a time period from the first mention
of his name to the present. I gave only a very
brief summary here.
In the future when people come to myself
and others about this information - which is
now existing in books and numerous places
over the Internet - will myself & others have
the luxury of deleting it from our memory?
I rather doubt it.
Etznab
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