On May 6, 4:16 pm, "Lars Wilson" <siaxa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > " ::: good news runner :::" <veral...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > And that Christ has returned from heaven to set up God's kingdom can
be
> > seen to be a blatant lie as he promised the nations would be ruled
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> > "Rod of iron" by the saints once his kingdom is established on the
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>
> This is symbolic. Chirst's rod of iron is synonymous with the "long
sword=
> of
> his mouth" meaning exposure of false lies when he teaches the accurate
> scripture. This is fulfilled when the Christ as Lazarus in the bosom
> position
> of the father torments the Rich Man. So the striking is an academic one
> where he condemns the world by what he preaches. It is not a literal
> rod. Christ takes up kingdom power when Satan is cast out of heaven
> 45 years after the Jews return to Palestine in 1947 and thus in 1992.
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> is when his preaching begins and he begins to chastise and condemn the
> world, separating sheep from the goats. But that doesn't mean the
> world at large would be aware of it. In fact, they wouldn't know most
> of them because Christ would be doing this in in the dark, pretty much
> as the Bible say, like a "thief in the night."
>
> > Swords will be turned into ploughshares and "Nations shall not lift up
> > sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." And when
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> > this to occur?
>
> This is a prophecy not of the second coming but after his millennium
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> begins. There is a gap of time from when Satan is cast out of heaven
and
> Christ builds his church, sealing the anointed members into the kingdom,
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> when they actually take over ruler****p of the earth. We are in that
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> between
> the second coming and Satan cast out of heaven in 1992 and Armageddon.
> Everything is still in line to be fulfilled just as the Bible says.
>
>
>
> > "2 And it shall come to pass in the end of days, that the mountain of
> > Jehovah's house shall be established on the top of the mountains, and
> > shall be lifted up above the hills; and all the nations shall flow
unto
> > it. 3 And many peoples shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the
> > mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will
teach=
> > us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths. For out of Zion shall
go
> > forth the law, and Jehovah's word from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge
> > among the nations, and shall reprove many peoples; and they shall
forge
> > their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into pruning-knives:
> > nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they
learn
> > war any more." Isaiah 2:1-4 (Darby)
>
> > Today the complete opposite is true, the nations are in war turmoil,
arm=
ed
> > to the teeth, for Christ and the saints are not yet reigning over the
> > nations, for he has stated they are to be broken into ****vers and will
> > submit to his iron rule over them.
>
> Christ and his saints are reigning but in secret for now until Christ
begi=
ns
> his millennium. Christ rules "in the midst of his enemies" for a while,
> thus
> they are still around as is Satan. When Satan is abyssed and the
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> governments destroyed, then many of the things affected by the righteous
> rule of the saints will take place. You MUST follow the scriptures to
> understand the chronology of events.
>
> > This as we see in living reality has simply not yet occurred.
>
> Some has and some haven't. The "great tribulation" occurred, which was
> the Holocaust, followed by the "end of the gentile times" in 1947 when
> the Jews regained their homeland again, as promised. So that happened.
> Soon after the messiah was born who would be tested for 40 years before
> the 70th week. If you count 70 weeks from 36 CE, then our time of
> 70 weeks for the second coming is from 1506-1996, so the 70th week
> is from 1989-1996. The new messiah is an ordinary man so is tested
> for 40 years before the beginninf of the 70th week in 1989. So
basically
> he must be born close to 1949-1950 to be in his 40th year by the
> fall of 1989. This is right on the heels of the new state of Israel
being=
> set up in 1948. So as the Bible says, once the fig tree begins to
> bloom again, representing the return of the state of israel, then he is
> "near at the doors". The "sign of the son of man" would begin
> to appear upon his birth, but only to the "eagles": "Where the
> carcass is, so the EAGLES will be gathered." The rest of Christianity
> would not be aware of this but would be in spiritual darkness. Even
> the "ten virgins" nod and their lamps wane. This is what is
> prophesied that would happen after the Holocaust: "Immediately
> AFTER the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened
> and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall out of
> heaven."
> That is, the spiritual light of understanding of these times of 40 years
> until the messiah arrives is one of spiritual darkness for most of
> Christendom who would not understand the process. Only the
> "eagles", those select ones who watch over and monitor the
> messiah would see the sign and "beat themselves in lamentation"
> when they see it. That's because it is the image of a "carcass",
> that is, of a dead messiah. It's a complex explanation but basically
> that's what it is. When the Bible says "every eye shall see him
> of the tribes of the earth" it means specifically the "eagles" who
> become the tribes of the earth. The rest of mankind are considered
> part of the "sea". So it is a limited fulfilment.
>
> Even when the messiah arrives in 1992 he comes as a "thief in the
> night" to the world in general. He appears in the "clouds" meaning
> not directly seen or understood. Everything is occurring just as
> prophesied.
>
> > As to Jesus returning in AD 70 etc, just look at his prophesy.
> > "14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world
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> > a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." Matt 24:14
(KJ=
V)
>
> PLEASE NOTE: The "end" that is spoken of in Matthew is not the end of
> the entire world, but only the end of the Jewish world under the
gentiles.=
> The Jews wanted to know when they would get their homeland back, so
> the "end of the system of things" to them was their current system of
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gs
> under the gentiles. That is why Luke mentions the "appointed times of
> the nations" trampling Jerusalem until their appointed times are
fulfilled=
..
> So the END that was to come was the end of the gentile times and
> that occurred in 1947!! So the END has already occurred.
>
> The only question was whether or not the new message of the "good news"
> that is preached by the "temple in its right condition" sect was an
> international sect by 1947, though it would be a brand new sect only
> officially recognized 110 years earlier than 1996 and thus 1886. It is
> related to there being no temple sect recognized for 2300 evenings and
> mornings. An evening and morning is one day thus 1150 years out of
> the last 1260 years of apostasy ending in 1996. The temple sect would
> appear and preach the "good news" beginning officially from 1886. By
> 1947 they would have preached this new message of "good news" world
> wide, particularly throughout Christendom. Now clearly this can only
> be fulfilled by an INTERNATIONAL sect, one that is controlled by a
> central headquarters. There are not that many international religious
> organizations
> that are Protestant, and not that many that have extensive missionary
> programs. Jehovah's witnesses and Mormons are the two principal groups
> that come to mind. Both were international sects by 1947. Except
Jehovah=
's
> witnesses are clearly the organization prophesied about since they had
> a presence with the Jews during the Holocaust. They clearly were
> a target of the Nazis. The JWs were given the purple triangle and
> the Jews the yellow star. This is necessary to fulfill when Gog of
> Magog, the disgusting thing, focusses on the "holy place" meaning
> the temple groups: one Christian and one Jewish, representing the
> two holy covenants. Only JWs were specific targets of the Nazis as
> a Christian religious group that I know of. Thus this focus represents
> the "disgusting thing" in a holy place. Nazism has traditions linked to
> the "Mysteries" and occult ancient Babylon and paganism. The
> eagle and the swastika were symbols of Artemis!
>
> http://www.reformation.org/swastika-goddess.html
>
> > No-way was the gospel preached to ALL nations of the world by AD 70.
>
> Correct. But again, the "end" has already occurred in 1947. One sect
woul=
d
> preach the "good news" worldwide by this date, a sect that would have
only=
> appeared and been officially recognized c. 1886. This sect appears to
be
> Jehovah's witnesses, who certainly are preaching "good news" about a
> paradise
> earth and are a worldwide Christian cult. Per the Bible the leader****p
> becomes
> apostate and the religion is abandoned when Christ arrives but they
still
> fulfill
> this part of the prophecy. The "end" is not the end of the world but
the=
> end of
> the gentile rule over the Jews. The "great tribulation" is not
Armageddo=
n
> but
> WWI and the Holocaust.
>
> Lars
"We are in that period between the second coming and Satan cast out of
heaven in 1992 and Armageddon. "
I am interested in Satan being cast out of heaven in 1992, what
religion teaches this, is it dispensationalism, how is the date
derived?
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