On Tue, 06 May 2008 21:31:39 -0400, Darrell Stec
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> wrote in alt.atheism;
>Bill Bowden wrote:
>
>> The Eighth Amendment originates in Deuteronomy 15: 2, 3. Again,
>> these principles are "self evident" truths which come from "the Laws
>> of Nature and of Nature's God."
>
>You are totally and unequivocally daft. Deuteronomy 15:2-3 basically
says
>that Jews must forgive all loans to other Jews after 7 years. In other
>words 10, 15, 20 and 30 year loans are out of the question. If the
>borrower is an non Jew then you can sock it to his year after year after
>year.
>
>The 8th Amendment deals with excessive bonds. Nothing in the above
>Deuteronomy passage addresses excessiveness of bonds nor even the
>excessiveness of loans. It only addresses the length of the loan but
>nothing about bonds.
>
>The 8th amendment forbids cruel and unusual punishment. Nothing about
that
>in your Deuteronomy passage. HOWEVER, Leviticus does allow for cruel and
>unusual punishments. Jews were forbidden to eat shellfish, touch a
>menstruating woman or anything she touched, wear two different fabrics at
>the same time, mix colors of sheep and goats or use the exact same plot
for
>more than one kind of crop, all of which are abominations and punishable
by
>death by stoning. In addition Exodus allows for the killing of non
Jewish
>neighbors' men and children, animals and the destruction of their crop,
as
>well as non virgin women. In fact it commands it. In addition those
>passages allow for the raping of virgins and if they were good in the
sack
>you could keep them as wives.
>
>So much for the Constitution being influenced by scripture.
>
>By the way, all of your other assertions were equally asinine. Using
Isaiah
>is particular so because the passage basically says that Yahweh will
>deliver the Jews from physical harm and sets the laws and judges them.
>There is no provision in those passages nor any following that allows one
>to override Yahweh's laws, nor check it. That is the whole purpose for
the
>checks and balances of our three part government -- so that any of the
>other two can override the other and prevent bad laws. With Yahweh you
are
>stuck with his laws and are required to stone anyone mixing their crops,
>i.e. crop rotation, or wearing a woolen suit with cotton white ****rt.
Don't forget there wouldn't be a Christian on the planet who hasn't done
work on the Holy Day which exceeded that of 'picking up sticks.' That
was the level of work which merited the death penalty by stoning.
Such a 'peaceful,' 'loving,' 'forgiving,' 'courageous,' and 'honorable'
bronze age superstition the Abrahamics are.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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