Re: NO EVIDENCE

On Thu, 1 May 2008 21:15:34 +0200, "thomas p." <gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
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>"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse 
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>> On Thu, 1 May 2008 13:45:37 +0200, "thomas p." <gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"thomas p." <gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>news:48194c97$0$56777$edfadb0f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>> "Bill Bowden" <wrongaddress@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>
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>>>> On Apr 29, 11:31 pm, "thomas p." <gudl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> "Bill Bowden" <wrongaddr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en
>>>>>
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>>>>> On Apr 29, 5:18 am, "thomas p." <gudl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>snip
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>>>>
>>>> You might be interested in this by Dennis Prager:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0505/prager050305.php3
>>>>
>>>> -Bill
>>>>
>>>
>>>I took a look at the above.  It is nonsense, either deliberate or the 
>>>result
>>>of ignorance.  What he says about moral opinions without a god amounts
to 
>>>a
>>>strawman that is easy for him to attack.  I find the idea that morality

>>>only
>>>exists because there is a policeman in the sky ugly to the extreme.
>>>Furthermore one would expect, if he was correct, the real world to
provide
>>>evidence of it, but there is no evidence that people without theistic 
>>>based
>>>morals behave worse than others.
>>
>> If they need an imaginary alpha male to keep them in line then they
>> are at best amoral, at worst sociopaths.
>>
>> The sociopathy also reveals itself in that they can't conceive of
>> others having other reasons to be moral. And also when they tell
>> ordinary decent people they can't be moral, which is offensive.
>
>I went to Catholic schools, where we were taught that morals came from
god. 
>If one grows up in that kind of environment, it is not easy to look at
the 
>issues differently. 

Yes.

> We should also remember that the high percentage of 
>genuinely crazy Christians and other theists that we see in alt. atheism
is 
>not the same percentage one finds in at least the mainstream churches.  

Kind of hard to forget the fact since I interact with christians and
other theists on a daily basis.

>Most 
>of the people I knew as a child believed in the doctrines but never
really 
>thought about it.  They were usually embarrassed or bored if anybody
wanted 
>to discuss it in any depth. 

Physical adults yammering about 'Santa Claus and the rest of the N. Pole
stuff.'  They should be embarrased.

         

   
             Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
               and
          SCAMPERMEISTER!"

When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert

alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}