On Thu, 1 May 2008 06:52:45 +0200, "thomas p." <gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
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>"Bill Bowden" <wrongaddress@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse
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>On Apr 29, 11:31 pm, "thomas p." <gudl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> "Bill Bowden" <wrongaddr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en
>>
meddelelsenews:b27f63c5-2f3e-492e-8478-6441d9bd835d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Apr 29, 5:18 am, "thomas p." <gudl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >> bill
>> >> Where do you get your moral standards from? Do you make them up? Do
>> >> you consult the Bible, or do you use some new brilliant ideas you
>> >> found on the web?
>> >> How do you know how to live? Don't you think some ancient religious
>> >> people had some good ideas? Or, is it all for profit?
>>
>> > thomas
>> > Well gosh, I consult the Bible. Why just yestereday in our village we
>> > stoned a child who was getting uppity with his parents. We are
>> > God-fearing
>> > folk here.
>>
>> bill
>> I see. You have compassion for the child. Where did you learn
>> compassion? Is that something you invented, or someone else?
>>
>> thomas
>> Did you have to learn compassion? Did you have to invent it? Did dogs
have
>> to go to Sunday School to learn to protect their young? Sympathy,
>> compassion etc. are natural emotions. Not having such feelings is
>> considered to be a symptom of mental illness.
>> I noticed you wisely avoided the point of my sarcastic remark. Here it
is:
>> Why would you consider the Bible to be a good source for learning how
to
>> act? If you have to pick what parts should be followed, would you not
have
>> to know already what was moral?
>
>bill
>I'm not a Bible scholar and read very little of it. I'm an agnostic
>and don't know the answers, but morality seems to be absolute, not
>invented by people.
>
>thomas
>It may seem that way to you, but the points I made above still stand.
>Compassion, sympathy, empathy are natural, human emotions; those who lack
>such emotions are considered to be mentally ill. We have no evidence
that
>the laws societies live by were not made by men, and they can be easily
>explained by the needs of men in society. We humans are social animals,
and
>living together requires rules.
>
>
>You might be interested in this by Dennis Prager:
>
>http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0505/prager050305.php3
Another theistic liar. So common. It would be nice if one of these
turkeys spoke the truth for a change.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}


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