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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?

by The_Sage <The_Sage@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 05:55 PM

>Reply to article by: Read The Bible <bibleverse2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Date written: Thu, 8 May 2008 05:38:22 -0700 (PDT)
>MsgID:<40be98b4-33d6-4db8-b147-09b470a0e8cd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

>The lie of the serpent
>was that they wouldn't become mortal at the same
>time because of their disobedience (Genesis 3:4).

Correction: The Bible does not say Adam and Eve were ever immortal.

>God had told them the truth that they would become
>mortal (Genesis 2:17)

Correction: God did not say they would become mortal, He said they would
die the
very day they ate of it. Of course, they didn't die the very day they ate
of it,
but died many years later, which means the serpent told the truth when he
said
that they wouldn't die the very day they ate of it.

>Genesis 3:22b simply means that God didn't want Adam
>and Eve to live forever in a state of sinfulness;

It doesn't say that at all.

>He had a much better plan: through the death and
>resurrection of His Son Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians
>15:1-4)

That is a most terrible plan: God planned to allow evil to exist for
thousands
and thousands of years, so clearly God does not believe in damage control
or nipping things in the bud. God then decides that the vast majority of
humankind will go to Hell because of the evil He gave permission to exist
in the
first place. That means billions and billions of people will go to Hell.
Why
wouldn't a "loving God" cut His losses to a minimum and stop evil at the
point
that only one thousand or even one million people would go to Hell,
instead of
the current billions and billions? Why doesn't God doesn't turn the other
cheek
to His enemies, instead of frying them in His version of Hitler's Ovens?

>He would restore believers to a state of
>righteousness and immortality (Romans 5:17-19, 6:23).

Yet another unfufilled promise.

>Genesis 3:24 simply means that God kept Adam and Eve
>away from the tree of life so that they wouldn't eat
>from it and live forever in a state of sinfulness.

It doesn't say that at all.

>We do know the difference between good and evil
>(Hebrews 5:14), but that ability isn't the original
>sin; the original sin was Adam disobeying God's
>command not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good
>and evil (Genesis 2:17, 3:11).

....something for which Adam could not be blamed for doing since Adam did
not
know it was not good to disobey God.

>We indeed know that we must die; godlike knowledge
>without immortality is indeed the terrible lot of
>man (Psalms 82:6-7).

Death is a blessing because without it we could not go to Heaven.

>Animals do know, much more than we think (Job 12:7).

Humans think, much more than animals know.

>If only God would give them the ability to speak, as
>He gave an animal the ability to speak in Numbers
>22:28-30

That is a very common fairytale gimmick. In real life, animals don't speak
and
never have.

The Sage

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
Risto Karttunen <tipsu  2008-05-07 03:59:55 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
The_Sage <The_Sage@[EM  2008-05-07 17:16:36 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
Risto Karttunen <tipsu  2008-05-12 00:38:00 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
The_Sage <The_Sage@[EM  2008-05-16 20:32:46 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
Risto Karttunen <tipsu  2008-05-12 03:07:26 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
claire.easthope@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-12 10:45:37 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
claire.easthope@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-12 10:54:46 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
claire.easthope@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-12 11:00:15 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
The_Sage <The_Sage@[EM  2008-05-14 17:55:59 

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