Bill Bowden wrote:
> "L. Raymond" wrote:
> There are at least 20 Biblical precepts encoded in the Federal
> Constitution by our founders. They are as follows:
You really do lack all self-respect, don't you? You lifted this stuff
whole sale from a site that specifically says, "This newsletter may be
reprinted and distributed electronically or in print, with proper
attribution." Where's the attribution? Where's the link, or the
author's name, or anything?
What you are doing is expressing a strongly held opinion about items you
haven't even read. Doesn't that make you feel just a little stupid? It
would be like my insisting The Lord of the Rings is a retelling of the
Arabian Nights because I read some web sites that say so.
In any case, Mr. Deschesne is just as wrong as can be expected.
> Article 1, §1, Clause 3 "...The actual Enumeration shall be made
> within three years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the
> United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years in such
> Manner as they shall by Law direct..."
>
> Numbers 1:2 "Take ye the sum of all the congregation of the children
> of Israel, after their families, of the house of their fathers, with
> the number of their names, every male by their polls;"
This wasn't for a census, it was the draft. The count was to find all
males ready to go to war. Num 1:3 - "From 20 years old and upward, all
that are able to go to war in Israel; thou and Aaron shall number them
by their armies."
The Constitution didn't provide for a standing army; it required a new
appropriation of money to sup****t an army every two years. And for the
tax census, it counted everyone, not just 20-50 year old men, or whoever
the Israelites used as arrow fodder. The US census counts all free
citizens, men and women, and even included slaves, who were counted as
3/5 of a person for this purpose. Indians, not being slaves or
citizens, were excluded. You can wander down to your nearest library
and see these censuses, if you've a mind to. You'll find the name of
the head of the house, whether man or woman, plus the number of other
inhabitants broken down by *** and age through 1840, and after 1850
you'll see every name.
> Article 1, §8, Clause 1 "The Congress shall have Power to lay and
> collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and
> provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United
> States..."
>
> Romans 13: 4,6 4.) "For he is the minister of God to thee for good.
> But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the
> sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute
> wrath upon him that doeth evil." 6.) "For this cause pay ye tribute
> also: for they are God¢s ministers, attending continually upon this
> very thing."
Context:
Romans 13:1 - "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For
there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God."
Constitution: "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a
more perfect union...". That's We the People, not God Almighty, not
Jesus H. Christ, not any sort of supernatural being, but We the People
from whom all power held by the government originates.
Romans 13:2- "Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the
ordinance of God; and they that resist shall receive to themselves
damnation." Constitution: Utterly silent on the damnation of tax
evaders.
Next, there is nothing remotely religious about taxes and duties, debts
etc. Every government in the history of humanity has exacted tax,
tribute or otherwise compelled people to provide wealth. There is
nothing biblical about it, except for the part about insisting
Christianity is the one true religion and its god will forever curse
slackers. The only thing pertaining to debts I know of in the bible
says they're supposed to be forgiven every seven years. Try pulling
that on the IRS and see how far it gets you.
> Article 1, §8, Clause 5 "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof,
> and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard Weights and Measures."
>
> Leviticus 19:35-36 "Ye shall do no unright- eousness in judgment, in
> meteyard, in weight, or in measure, Just balances, just weights, a
> just e¢-phah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the Lord your God,
> which brought you out of Egypt."
It boggles the mind that anyone could think this is remotely religious,
or a basic principle of government. This is a simple secular
requirement, codified in the laws of Hammurabi, of the Aztecs, of the
Chinese, of the Greeks, of the Egyptians and of every other civilization
that ever developed weights and measures. The fact that the Jews needed
it phrased as a threat from god just tells you how often their shop
keepers tried to rip people off.
> Article 1, §8, Clause 6 "To provide for the Punishment of
> counterfeiting the Securites and the current Coin of the United
> States."
>
> Exodus 20:15 "Thou shalt not steal."
Counterfeiting isn't stealing. This comment doesn't even deserve this
much of a response, but really...
> Article 1, §8, Clause 15 "To provide for calling forth the Militia to
> execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel
> Invasions."
>
> Nehemiah 4:4 "And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles, and
> to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, Be not ye afraid of
> them: remember the Lord, which is great and terrible, and fight for
> your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your
> houses."
Sheesh, you people can't even get the attribution correct. You're
quoting the 14th verse, not the 4th. What a waste of time you are.
There's no point spending even another second on this silliness.
Everything you've cut-n-paste is a random pairing of nonsense. Read the
bible and try to defend your own opinion with your own ideas, if
possible.
--
L. Raymond
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