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Re: Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Thomas.

by James <bireda@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 13, 2008 at 01:45 PM

>John Locke <johnlocke98999@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

>Re: Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Thomas.

>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:58:17 -0700 (PDT), Joe <useful_infos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>Here's the Gospel of Thomas, i.e. that modern discovery found
>>in a cave which supposedly quotes Jesus verbatim.
>>
>>http://muvy.org/new.php?q=jesus
>>
>Jesus Christ, if he existed, was a conceited, self centered, nasty,
>malicious individual. No. He was NOT a nice guy by any stretch
>of the imagination. Behold the following:
>
>Matthew 10:
>
>34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
>peace, but a sword.
>
> 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
>daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her
>mother in law.
>
> 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
>
> 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me:
>and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 
>
>What a jerk. Amen.

Hello,

You are misinterpreting those verses. You want to follow your own
quote at the bottom, "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it
really is than to persist in delusion". Thus if you want to perceive
Jesus as a "jerk", you are going to, but it will not be the truth "as
it really is".

If you want to know the truth of those verses, here is what they mean:

Why would Jesus say such a thing when he also says at Mt 19:19 to
honor your father and mother and to love our neighbor and to love
ourself? Was he contradicting himself? 

This was not the first time in the Bible when family members turned on
other family members because of what was true and righteous. Jesus
constantly quoted scripture and was well aware of this statement by
the prophet Micah at Mic 7:5,6,

"5.  Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep
the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.
 6.  For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up
against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a
man's enemies are the men of his own house." (KJV)

Sound familiar? Jesus was actually quoting or alluding to Micah's
words when he said that the same conditions would prevail in his time
that occurred in Micah's time. 

When Jesus presented the truth to all people, including family
members, some would turn against their own family members because of
their hatred for Jesus' teachings. The culprits are those family
members, not Jesus. He was only prophetically showing how some people
would react to the truths of God's word.

Now you know the real meaning of those words. 


Sincerely, James

**If you wish to have a discussion with me, please use email since I
do not follow ng threads

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>
>"It is far better to grasp the Universe 
>as it really is than to persist in delusion, 
>however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan




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Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Thomas
Joe <useful_infos@[EMA  2008-04-26 16:58:17 
Re: Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Th
Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-04-26 20:08:22 
Re: Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Th
Liz <ehuth1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-26 20:26:29 
Re: Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Th
John Locke <johnlocke9  2008-04-26 18:33:22 
Re: Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Th
James <bireda@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 13:45:12 
Re: Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Th
"Onoit" <ono  2008-05-13 14:26:38 
Re: Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Th
Joe <useful_infos@[EMA  2008-04-26 19:10:26 
Re: Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Th
Ed <woden@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-27 02:46:39 
Re: Was Jesus such a nice guy? Here he is, quoted verbatim by Th
Ed <woden@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-27 02:51:15 

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