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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?

by Risto Karttunen <tipsu@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 12, 2008 at 12:38 AM

The_Sage wrote:
>
> Since Adam had no knowledge of wrongdoing, there is no guilt.
>
Since he got that knowledge, there is now.
>
> >We are responsible and guilty, unlike animals, because we have our
> >reflective consciousness.
>
> We can only be guilty because of reprehensible behaviors.
>
But the expression "reprehensible behavior" makes sense only to us,
since we have that
reflective consciousness. Besides, as Zygmunt Bauman says in his work
Postmodern Ethics: 'The moral self is a self always tormented by the
suspicion that it is not moral enough'. It is the immoral one who does
not feel guilt.
>
> >We are capable of saying "I", we are able to
> >look at ourselves and see our very ****dness before God. Animals
> >aren't.
>
> Neither was Adam.
>
He was, after he got conscious, i.e. when he became human. That is the
price for it.
>
> And therein lies the whole point -- Adam had no knowledge of wrong, so
Adam had
> no way of knowing that partaking of the Tree of Knowledge was wrong.
Adam had no
> way of knowing if what he did was evil, therefore Adam could not be
found
> guilty, and Adam had no way of knowing that obeying God was good because
Adam
> had no knowledge of good.
>
But we have that knowledge, hence we have got expelled from the
Paradise.

--
risto
 




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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
Risto Karttunen <tipsu  2008-05-07 03:59:55 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
The_Sage <The_Sage@[EM  2008-05-07 17:16:36 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
Risto Karttunen <tipsu  2008-05-12 00:38:00 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
The_Sage <The_Sage@[EM  2008-05-16 20:32:46 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
Risto Karttunen <tipsu  2008-05-12 03:07:26 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
claire.easthope@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-12 10:45:37 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
claire.easthope@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-12 10:54:46 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
claire.easthope@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-12 11:00:15 
Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?
The_Sage <The_Sage@[EM  2008-05-14 17:55:59 

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