Re: THE PROBLEM WITH ADAM?

>Reply to article by: Risto Karttunen <tipsu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Date written: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:01:29 -0700 (PDT)
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>> Then Adam cannot be held responsible or guilty for something he did not
know.

>This is about consequences which bring about responsibility and guilt.

Since Adam had no knowledge of wrongdoing, there is no guilt.

>We are responsible and guilty, unlike animals, because we have our
>reflective consciousness.

We can only be guilty because of reprehensible behaviors.

>We are capable of saying "I", we are able to
>look at ourselves and see our very ****dness before God. Animals
>aren't.

Neither was Adam.

And therein lies the whole point -- Adam had no knowledge of wrong, so
Adam had
no way of knowing that partaking of the Tree of Knowledge was wrong. Adam
had no
way of knowing if what he did was evil, therefore Adam could not be found
guilty, and Adam had no way of knowing that obeying God was good because
Adam
had no knowledge of good.

The Sage

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