Re: THE PROBLEM WITH JESUS' FORGIVENESS...

On 10 May 2008 00:27:03 -0500, bob young <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Antares 531 wrote:
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>> >Sounds rather silly to me.
>> >Atheists deny the existence of everything
>> >they are not smart enough to define?
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>> Atheism goes beyond this. Most of them subscribe to the Darwinian
>> Theory or Evolution, even though it has been falsified many times
>> over, and in fact there is no sup****ting evidence, anywhere. Atheists
>> seem to extrapolate from micro to macro evolution with no
>> justification at all. Gordon
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>We understand science is an ongoing process.  After all, in
>the time of the claimed Jesus they knew nothing of the
>innermost workings of human birth process.  A man in those
>days with a heart valve problem died.  Today many can be
>given another fifteen years of life.  I suppose 'God' was
>happy for them to die back then?

Even so, there must be some foundation to the Atheists' rationale. How
do they reconcile the knowledge that no macro evolution has ever been
shown to have occurred. Micro evolution...yes...we see that in our
varieties of domestic animals that have been selectively bred to
produce the desired traits. But no macro evolution has ever been
observed, much less produced by human effort.

The very large burst of life forms during the Cambrian life explosion
can not be explained, but we do know that no new phyla have come into
existence since that time. What caused that Cambrian explosion of life
forms, and why did the process stop abruptly, never to repeat or
continue the process, since that one burst?   Gordon
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>NO.  We get our atheism from the silly childish unthinking
>antics of religius fundamentalists.  Many are othersie
>intelligent people but when the desire for 'power thru a
>god' gets hold of them - all of that goes right out of the window.
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>Bob
>Humanist
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I agree with you to a very great extent, here. The fundies are
frequently a discredit to themselves and to all rational thinkers,
but, hey, it is their sovereign right to think as they chose. The
purpose they do seem to serve is that they are able to communicate
with those who are simply not capable of embracing deeper levels of
thinking.  Gordon
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>You never see animals going through the absurd and often
>horrible fooleries of magic and religion.  Only man behaves
>with such gratuitous folly.  It is the price he has to pay
>for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite intelligent
>enough.  
>[Aldous Leonard Huxley]
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>> It is obvious to anyone familiar with domestic animals that micro
>> evolution does occur, and indeed can be easily manipulated by humans
>> in their domestic livestock selective breeding. Jersey, Holstein,
>> Angus, etc. breeds of cattle illustrates what I'm talking about.
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>> But this micro evolution has never been shown to cross the boundary
>> between species, or to introduce a new species. A Jersey bull and a
>> Holstein cow can mate and produce offspring. They are still very much
>> the same species.   Gordon