Re: THE PROBLEM WITH JESUS' FORGIVENESS...

Antares 531 wrote:
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> On Thu, 08 May 2008 11:15:55 -0400, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >bob young wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> monkfish wrote:
> >>>
> >>> bob young wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > monkfish wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> But we have to remember that
> >>> >> God is prior to time and space
> >>> >> and God is also prior to good and evil.
> >>> >
> >>> > You have proof of that claim?
> >>>
> >>> I'm working on it.
> >>> For now you can think of the sentence
> >>> as my working definition of God.
> >>
> >> Atheists have no interest in definitions of gods
> >> all of which they reject as being simply mythology
> >
> >
> >Sounds rather silly to me.
> >Atheists deny the existence of everything
> >they are not smart enough to define?
> >
> Atheism goes beyond this. Most of them subscribe to the Darwinian
> Theory or Evolution, even though it has been falsified many times
> over, and in fact there is no sup****ting evidence, anywhere. Atheists
> seem to extrapolate from micro to macro evolution with no
> justification at all.

We understand science is an ongoing process.  After all, in
the time of the claimed Jesus they knew nothing of the
innermost workings of human birth process.  A man in those
days with a heart valve problem died.  Today many can be
given another fifteen years of life.  I suppose 'God' was
happy for them to die back then?

NO.  We get our atheism from the silly childish unthinking
antics of religius fundamentalists.  Many are othersie
intelligent people but when the desire for 'power thru a
god' gets hold of them - all of that goes right out of the window.

Bob
Humanist

You never see animals going through the absurd and often
horrible fooleries of magic and religion.  Only man behaves
with such gratuitous folly.  It is the price he has to pay
for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite intelligent
enough.  
[Aldous Leonard Huxley]




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> It is obvious to anyone familiar with domestic animals that micro
> evolution does occur, and indeed can be easily manipulated by humans
> in their domestic livestock selective breeding. Jersey, Holstein,
> Angus, etc. breeds of cattle illustrates what I'm talking about.
> 
> But this micro evolution has never been shown to cross the boundary
> between species, or to introduce a new species. A Jersey bull and a
> Holstein cow can mate and produce offspring. They are still very much
> the same species.   Gordon