>Reply to article by: Risto Karttunen <tipsu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Date written: Thu, 8 May 2008 23:46:34 -0700 (PDT)
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>> >> But Adam did not know the difference so how could he have known it
was not good
>> >> to disobey God?
>> >He had the ability to choose. I feel that God was secretly proud of
>> >what He had created in man.
>> You did not answer the question.
>You answered it yourself: Adam did not know.
Then Adam cannot be held responsible or guilty for something he did not
know.
>But as I said, he was able to gain that knowledge (with the help of
>Eve).
But as I said, it was too late by then.
>> >God could not have let Adam gain immortality. Then Adam would have
become God.
>> Then whay was the Tree of Life and the Tree of Evil *BOTH* freely
available to
>> choose from in the Garden? That completely destroys your point there.
>My point is in what happened: man has eaten from the tree of knowledge
>but not from the tree of eternal life.
My point is that God allowed Adam to have access to both trees. Adam could
have
eaten of the Tree of Life (which he was not forbidden to eat) and lived
forever,
so clearly God did not consider immorality being equal to God. Adam ate of
the
Tree of Knowledge of Evil and God still did not consider that being equal
to
God. What God considered as equal to God was having BOTH knowledge of good
and
evil AND being immortal.
>We know that we must die. That is something which no animal knows
>beforehand ( I guess).
But sine you don't know, why make things up?
>That knowledge is a very heavy burden.
No it isn't. Death is a blessing, not a curse.
>> >I cannot imagine a world without suffering.
>> That is only a problem with your ability to imagine.
>I think suffering is inevitable, as long as there is time, space,
>matter and energy, plus sentient beings.
Think again.
>> Then you must be very happy to suffer so much.
>Of course I'm not. But ""It is better to be an unhappy Socrates, than
>to be a happy pig".
And therein lies your problem -- you are prejudiced against pigs.
The Sage
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