monkfish wrote:
>
> Bill M wrote:
>
> >
> > "The_Sage" <The_Sage@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > news:34t124p0uv6vid6cqumh12sluodj7af79a@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> In the Garden of Eden, where God placed Adam on the sixth day, God
had
> >> also
> >> planted a very special tree there which he called "The tree of
knowledge
> >> of good
> >> and EVIL". Where did God get His knowledge of evil when he created
the
> >> tree of
> >> knowledge of good and evil -- from His heart or from His head? Why
didn't
> >> God
> >> have Satan create the tree of knowledge of evil instead? Maybe
because
> >> Satan
> >> couldn't create a tree evil enough for God to look down on and
declare
> >> "and it
> >> was good"? Which is more evil: the person who does an evil deed or
the
> >> accomplice who teaches that person how to do evil deeds? Where is the
> >> justice in
> >> that?
> >>
> >> One day Adam broke one of God's commandments by eating of the Tree of
> >> Evil Knowledge. If Adam was born without knowledge of good and evil
(and
> >> therefore
> >> had no knowledge of what sin was), then how could Adam be blamed for
> >> doing evil
> >> when he ate of the forbidden tree? Where is the justice in that?
> >>
> >> Adam eventually died as a result that action, but did Adam gain
anything
> >> by
> >> dying? If Adam died and then continued to live afterwards in heaven,
then
> >> sin
> >> and the resultant death was not a curse, but a blessing because dying
is
> >> a way
> >> to go to Heaven. If Adam continued to live afterwards in Hell, then
it
> >> was dishonest and unjust for God to not give Adam a fair warning
ahead of
> >> time, a
> >> warning that if he sinned he would not just only die, but he would
> >> continue to
> >> live in a terrible place where he would be tortured forever and ever.
> >> Where is
> >> the justice in that?
> >>
> >> Adam supposedly was created with a body, soul, and spirit. When Adam
> >> first sinned, which of these parts of Adam was responsible for the
sin?
> >> If it was the
> >> body then why must our souls be saved and not our bodies? If it was
soul
> >> or
> >> spirit then why must the body suffer? When God spoke to Adam in Gen.
> >> 3:17-19,
> >> was he speaking to "Adam the body" or "Adam the soul" or "Adam the
> >> spirit"? If
> >> you say spirit or soul then why would God mislead Adam by saying from
> >> dust YOU
> >> were made and to dust YOU will return? Why didn't he truthfully say
from
> >> dust
> >> only your body was made and to dust only your body will return?
> >> Eventually there
> >> would come Jesus and he was to buy back what Adam lost. This brings
us to
> >> the
> >> question of what exactly did Adam lose? If Adam was already in
Heaven,
> >> then he
> >> didn't need Jesus to die for him because he would already be where he
> >> would want
> >> to be. If Adam was in Hell then it was too late! He was already where
he
> >> deserved to be. Wouldn't God have originally wanted Adam to have not
> >> sinned? If
> >> you believe in foreordaination, you would have to say no, because God
had
> >> preplanned for Adam's failure, therefore God wanted Adam to sin.
Where is
> >> the
> >> justice in that?
> >>
> >> The Sage
> >
> > The Adam and Eve and "The tree of knowledge of good and EVIL". are all
> > myths and
> > fable just like Alice in Wonderland, The Wizard of Oz, Aesop's Fables
etc.
> >
> > Gods are all the creations of man's imagination. They were created to
> > overcome man's panic
> > fear of the finalty of death and the end of their lives.
>
> That appears to be a quite broad generalization.
> Do you have any evidence to sup****t it?
What do you need evidence for? You grovel to a god that you
have never seen or heard from, that you only know about from
what other humans told you. So you do not need any evidence
for anything.
>
> > There si NO objective verifiable evidence that they exist in reality!
>
> That would depends on the frame of reference used.
> How do you tell what is real in your scheme of things?
>
> --
> monkfish * alt.atheism is removed from the header because trying to
prove
> the existence of God is prohibited by their undebatable policy.
> ** Atheists have blind faith in their ability to know of all actual or
> possible modes of existence. Such hubris cannot be good for science.


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