On Wed, 7 May 2008 16:31:31 +0100, "Bill M" <wmech@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>"The_Sage" <The_Sage@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> In the Garden of Eden, where God placed Adam on the sixth day, God had
>> also
>> planted a very special tree there which he called "The tree of
knowledge
>> of good
>> and EVIL". Where did God get His knowledge of evil when he created the
>> tree of
>> knowledge of good and evil -- from His heart or from His head? Why
didn't
>> God
>> have Satan create the tree of knowledge of evil instead? Maybe because
>> Satan
>> couldn't create a tree evil enough for God to look down on and declare
>> "and it
>> was good"? Which is more evil: the person who does an evil deed or the
>> accomplice who teaches that person how to do evil deeds? Where is the
>> justice in
>> that?
>>
>> One day Adam broke one of God's commandments by eating of the Tree of
Evil
>> Knowledge. If Adam was born without knowledge of good and evil (and
>> therefore
>> had no knowledge of what sin was), then how could Adam be blamed for
doing
>> evil
>> when he ate of the forbidden tree? Where is the justice in that?
>>
>> Adam eventually died as a result that action, but did Adam gain
anything
>> by
>> dying? If Adam died and then continued to live afterwards in heaven,
then
>> sin
>> and the resultant death was not a curse, but a blessing because dying
is a
>> way
>> to go to Heaven. If Adam continued to live afterwards in Hell, then it
was
>> dishonest and unjust for God to not give Adam a fair warning ahead of
>> time, a
>> warning that if he sinned he would not just only die, but he would
>> continue to
>> live in a terrible place where he would be tortured forever and ever.
>> Where is
>> the justice in that?
>>
>> Adam supposedly was created with a body, soul, and spirit. When Adam
first
>> sinned, which of these parts of Adam was responsible for the sin? If it
>> was the
>> body then why must our souls be saved and not our bodies? If it was
soul
>> or
>> spirit then why must the body suffer? When God spoke to Adam in Gen.
>> 3:17-19,
>> was he speaking to "Adam the body" or "Adam the soul" or "Adam the
>> spirit"? If
>> you say spirit or soul then why would God mislead Adam by saying from
dust
>> YOU
>> were made and to dust YOU will return? Why didn't he truthfully say
from
>> dust
>> only your body was made and to dust only your body will return?
Eventually
>> there
>> would come Jesus and he was to buy back what Adam lost. This brings us
to
>> the
>> question of what exactly did Adam lose? If Adam was already in Heaven,
>> then he
>> didn't need Jesus to die for him because he would already be where he
>> would want
>> to be. If Adam was in Hell then it was too late! He was already where
he
>> deserved to be. Wouldn't God have originally wanted Adam to have not
>> sinned? If
>> you believe in foreordaination, you would have to say no, because God
had
>> preplanned for Adam's failure, therefore God wanted Adam to sin. Where
is
>> the
>> justice in that?
>>
>> The Sage
>
>The Adam and Eve and "The tree of knowledge of good and EVIL". are all
myths
>and
>fable just like Alice in Wonderland, The Wizard of Oz, Aesop's Fables
etc.
>
>Gods are all the creations of man's imagination. They were created to
>overcome man's panic
>fear of the finalty of death and the end of their lives.
>
>There si NO objective verifiable evidence that they exist in reality!
>
Bill, there is no objective, verifiable evidence that any other
planets have some life forms on them, but, hey, if it could happen
here on this planet, can we have enough faith to "believe" that it
might have happened on a number of other planets...even in the absence
of any objective, verifiable evidence? Or, are we compelled to shut
the door on this and conclude that it just ain't possible, since we
can not prove it?
Your posture on the Adam and Eve story may seem quite sound if one
reads and interprets it only in its literal form. However, if one
examines this and other allegorical stories for their embedded
meaning, they begin to make a lot more sense.
Adam and Eve represent the very earliest homo sapiens sapiens. Recall
that in this story, Adam used nouns to name all the animals, and God
was VERY PLEASED, but there was not a woman found suitable as a mate
for Adam.
The Adam class males had apparently experienced a genetic mutation
that gave the males a much improved speech center of their brains. The
DNA for this trait was carried on the Y chromosome, and therefore not
transmitted to the females.
God then induced a deep sleep (comatose state from some viral
infection) upon Adam. This was probably done with some retrovirus such
as mumps that infected the platelets in Adam's flat bones (ribs). The
retrovirus then did a horizontal transfer of DNA for this speech
center mutation from Adam's platelets in his ribs to either the
women's ovaries, or perhaps to Adam's sperm cells, placing this
horizontally transferred DNA on the X chromosome so that it was then a
part of the females' genotype.
Then, as soon as some females were born with this genetic mutation,
and matured to the speech development age, they also could use
nouns...and they haven't shut up since!
Prior to this mutation, the pre-Adam class humans (Cro-Magnons) were
limited to using only a form of verbs, adverbs, adjectives, etc. Once
they could use nouns their speech/language abilities surged ahead and
they were very soon able to pass along meaningful history to their
descendants, and were well on the way to a modern form of humans.
Gordon
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