On May 4, 3:56=A0pm, "John Smith" <bobsyoung...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 3, 2:36 pm, "John Smith" <bobsyoung...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "Elder(:)Child" <yoo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > Have you laid the foundation of a "thinker"?
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> > I certainly hope so!
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> > > A logician of precise 'thoughts', establi****ng a
> > > 'dike' that would seek to keep out any and all
> > > unreasonableness of the natural mind. A 'dike'
> > > filled with holes, yet 'logic' believes the 'dike'
> > > will withstand any flood of words that would
> > > question the logicians 'thought' processes.
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> > Logic is a process - not as "god".
> > Logic cannot do anything - people use the process.
> > ANYONE knowing or seeking a path of "logic" immediately realizes that
> > logic
> > is not the end all to end alls. (i.e. a rock solid dyke)
> > Religious zealots try to paint that picture, about those who use
logic,
> > and
> > then attack that as their own strawman.
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> > > Problem!
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> > > Logic is not The Truth!
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> > No. Truth has to do with facts and reality; logic is a process.
> > So what?
> > Logic was never meant to be truth - only LEAD to "truth".
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> > > Truth is Miracles happen and Miracles defy logic!
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> > No. The truth is that there is no such thing as miracles. Miracles
fall
> > under the heading of religious beliefs - and since NO religion has
EVER
> > proven itself as reality based fact - miracles cannot be used as a
factu=
al
> > term.
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> > "UNEXPLAINABLE" things happen ... all the time.
> > Logicians know that ..... as do scientists.
> > Being "unexplainable" does NOT automatically make them into "religious
> > miracles".
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> > > And Faith grounded in revelatory miracles can
> > > not be shaken!
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> > Faith is not meant to be "shaken".
> > All logic and science can do is show the reality of a situatuion
> > (including
> > the fact that there are unexplainables).
> > People can take it or leave it for the thre religious world of faith.
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> > 'Receivers' rejoice against 'logic',
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> > > for their 'Faith' is not of the flesh(earth), fleshly
> > > and 'natural', but of The Spirit(heaven), heavenly
> > > and 'spiritual'!
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> > IOW - "receivers" rejoice against that which is real, valid,
verifiable
> > and
> > truthful?
> > Are you sure that's what you want to say?
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> > There is NO reason why that of the "spirit" has to contradict logic
and
> > reason.
> > It is only the zealous fanatics who delve into that insanity, treating
> > them
> > as opposites.
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> > > Their 'meat' is revelation, experiential knowledge
> > > given of their Father!
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> > Thier meat is rotten!
> > There is no evidence that there even IS a "father".
> > "Experiential knowledge" is the least meaningful and valid of all
> > knowledge.
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> > Gray becomes their least
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> > > favorite color,
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> > No; gray is their favorite color - but only when they use it to their
ow=
n
> > advantage.
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> > their own 'life' and 'thoughts' their
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> > > enemy and this world is 'seen' as the wicked
> > > and evil creation of 'logical' men. 'mindful' men
> > > used of this world's 'god' in the abuse of all that
> > > Is The Messiah!
>
> > > The 'receivers' "exercise their senses in the
> > > discernment of that which is good, and that
> > > which is evil"!
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> > They excerscise their own (warped - holier than thou) ego ... just
like
> > anyone else. They just pretend they have the blesings of a god to do
so.=
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> > > In the religions of this world discernment is often
> > > looked upon as 'judgement' and such blindness
> > > gives way to the "i'm ok, you're ok" theo'ry'logy
> > > that is of 'the god of this world'.
>
> > What?
> > You're apparently trying to sound more educated than you really are.
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> > > "Lo, here is The Messiah, lo, there is The Messiah"
> > > is the call of that which calls herself 'christianity' and
> > > confusion reigns as Truth is rendered obsolete
> > > rather than absolute!
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> > > And The ONE GOD, Father of ALL has given The
> > > Call to repent and:
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> > There you go bellowing about that (unproven) god again ..... as though
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t
> > has a valid, real world, factual basis.
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> simply, sad for you ;-(
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> Because I don't believe in your delusional inventions?
> No ... sorry........
>
> yet there is hope!
>
> for Miracles do happen!
>
> Spoken from true "holier than thou" arrogance.
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simply, sad for you ;-(
yet there is hope!
for Miracles do happen!
and Miraculous Power reveals how "poor and needy" we truly are.......
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