Antares 531 wrote:
> Ben Goren wrote:
>> Antares 531 wrote:
>>> Bill M wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have asked numerous times for someone to provide any
>>>> objective verifiable evidence that any gods actually exist.
>>>>
>>>> No one has ever supplied it. Not even any god.
>>>>
>>>> the logical conclusion is that no real gods exist except in
>>>> peoples over active imaginations.
>>>
>>> And, just how would you cope with it if someone did provide
>>> you with such empirical proof? You would no longer have any
>>> sovereign choice as to believing in or not believing in
>>> God. You would be overwhelmed and thus compelled to do God's
>>> will. You would no longer be anything more than a mere puppet
>>> of God's. And, being a puppet isn't what God wants you or any
>>> of us to develop into.
>>
>> Let's turn that around for a moment. How would *you* cope if
>> somebody provided you with irrefutable proof that none of your
>> gods could possibly exist?
>
> I don't really know how I would cope if it were possible for
> someone to "prove" to me that God does not exist.
Well, if you'd care to find out, re-read these next three
paragraphs that you totally ignored, do what they ask you to do,
and I'm quite confident that I'll prove any and all of your gods
to be as logically idiotic as the archetypal square circle.
>> If you'd like to find out, then all you have to do is tell me
>> what, exactly, your gods are. Define them, if you will.
>>
>> ``My god, <insert name here>, is nothing if she / he / it isn't
>> <insert essential property here>.''
>>
>> Common answers for the first include, ``YHWH,'' ``Jesus,''
>> ``Allah,'' and the like; for the second, it's usually
>> ``omnipotent,'' ``omnibenevolent,'' ``the creator of Life, the
>> Universe, and Everything,'' and so on.
>
> I don't think it would be possible for me or for anyone else,
> for that matter, to explain this to you as long as your mind-set
> is totally against it.
>
> You remind me of the allegory involving a group of sentient
> computers...
A completely inane and irrelevant allegory. What, you think that
no atheist has ever encountered theism before, that none of us
have ever been theists, that we've never had anybody preach to us
before, that not one of us has ever sincerely tried to believe?
You'd have to look for a long, long, long time before you found
even a single atheist who fit your fantasy image of us.
Cheers,
b&
--
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``All but God can prove this sentence true.''
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