Pastor Frank wrote:
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> On Apr 28, 12:34 pm, "Cosmic programmer" <not-my-em...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
> > When you argue with a fool, chances are he's doing the same"Bill M"
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> > >>>> --
> > >>>> When you argue with a fool, chances are he's doing the same
> > >>>> "Bill M" <wm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:ni1Rj.64516$vr3.41192@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>> > It is amazing how people can believe in so many different gods
when
> > >>>> > there
> > >>>> > is NO objective verifiable evidence that any of the gods are
real.
> > >>>> > The
> > >>>> > logial evidence is that NO REAL gods actually exist except in
the
> > >>>> > imaginations of the believers.
> >
> > >>>> There is NO god but GOD.
> >
> > >>>> God of Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Joseph, Jesus and Muhammad.
> >
> > >>> It's too bad that you get terribly insecure when your
> > >>> particular god is threatened, never mind, it is to be
> > >>> expected. The fact remains all gods are fabricated by the
> > >>> active brains of homo sapien.
> >
> > >>> "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one
> > >>> fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss
> > >>> all the other possible gods, you will understand why I
> > >>> dismiss yours."
> > >>> [Stephen Roberts]
> >
> > >> Big difference between zero and a positive number. Not just the
> > >> difference of 1. Zero means you dont believe the Universe was
created
> > >> by
> > >> some intelligent being who owns the universe. Believing in God or
gods
> > >> means you do. This is a big difference. In many programming
languages a
> > >> positive value means true while zero means false. So the contention
of
> > >> your friend is wrong.
> >
> > > Do you really think your nonsensical claims are valid? Get an
education.
> > > A
> > > course in logic
> > > would be helpful!
> >
> > There's this wonderful painting of stunning beauty. People are arguing
> > about
> > the painter and crediting different artists. A person comes along and
> > says,
> > 'you guys cant decide who the artist(s) is so I might just say there
is no
> > artist at all. I just believe in one less artist than you'. Do you
really
> > think this guy is making sense?
>
> Bad example. A painting exists, but I know how it came to be. I've
> seen paint in the stores, I've dated women who painted, and I've seen
> paintings from the past that have outlived their "creators".. It is
> not a stretch of the imagination to know a painting must have an
> artist behind it.
>
> The world, OTOH, has no need to be "painted". Natural processes
> explain how it came to exist, and why it is the way it is. We can even
> see planets forming elswhere in the universe by these very same
> processes, with no one needed to "create" them.
>
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/Solar/planetform.html
> http://www.cambridge.org/uk/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=0521860156
>
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=planet%20formation&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
>
> Your question is ill-founded and is meant to appeal to emotion. The
> emotion we all feel for this planet. And why do we feel this way?
> Because we evolved within it. To remark upon how "perfect" our planet
> is for life would be like the water in a mud puddle being astonished
> that the hole in the ground is the *exact* same shape it is. If the
> world were different, we would be too. Or we just wouldn't exist to
> ask the question in the first place.
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>
> This is of course all predicated upon the unfounded belief and
faith,
> that the "real world" is in fact "real" and not virtual reality. To
> religionists only God and His Kingdom of heaven is REAL.
Yes we know, so we atheists try to drum a little common
sense and logic into a world of superstitious madness
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