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Re: WHICH GOD IS REAL?

by bob young <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 11:08 PM

uragoner wrote:
> 
> READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF -
> http://www.arabicbible.com/
> http://www.theophilos.sk/download.htm#free
> 
> > > http://www.thegrace.com/download.htm
>  or Check Google or another
> search
> > > engine.
> 
> Our  Infinite God, The One who can truly see the end and the beginning
has
> given the proof of His omniscience in the form of Biblical prophecies.

Nothing in the bible makes any sense and prophesies is
simply a coincidences that religionists grab hold of like a
dying man clutching at straws. Prophesies only proves that
some minds can be subject to serious weaknesses.

Coincidentally you seem quite simple in your approach to
invisible gods  !

Here's some extracts from your perfect bible :

Genesis 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
Genesis 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.


Genesis 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
Genesis 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.


Genesis 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
Genesis 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.


Genesis 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
Genesis 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.


Genesis 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
Genesis 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.


Acts 9:7

Those present at Paul's conversion heard the voice but saw
no one.

Acts 22:9

They saw a light but did not hear a voice.

God is satisfied with his works
[Gen 1:31]

God is dissatisfied with his works.
[Gen 6:6]

God dwells in chosen temples
[2 Chron 7:12,16]

God dwells not in temples
[Acts 7:48] 


First Account (Genesis 1:1-2:3) Second Account (Genesis
2:4-25) 
Gen.1:25-27
(Humans were created after the other animals.) 

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and
cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon
the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And
God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created
man in his own image.

Gen.2:18-19 
(Humans were created before the other animals.) 

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be
alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the
ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and
every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see
what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every
living creature, that was the name thereof. 

Gen.1:27 (The first man and woman were created
simultaneously.) 

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God
created he him; male and female created he them. 

Gen.2:18-22 
(The man was created first, then the animals, then the woman
from the man's rib.) 

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be
alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the
ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and
every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see
what he would call them.... And the LORD God caused a deep
sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of
his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the
rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made
he a woman, and brought her unto the man.


Genesis, 32:30
"And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have
seen God
face to face, and my life is preserved."


Gospel of John, 1:18 
"No man hath seen God at any time."


Some silly implausible Bible stories.


The story of creation

A totally illogical Biblical story is the story of creation.
It is obviously pure fiction

Biblically, God created the world some 5,000 to 10,000 years
ago. Scientific evidence shows the Universe, as we now know
it, began almost 14 BILLION years ago.

In the Bible, the Universe is a firmament and the Earth is a
fixed (not to mention flat Planet) and the Sun, Moon and
other planets revolve around the earth. We now KNOW the
Earth revolves around the Sun and the Universe is made up of
trillions of Stars and Planets of which our planetary system
is a very miniscule and unim****tant part.

In the Bible the earth is created in the first day, before
the Son, Moon and Stars. Objective scientific evidence is
that the Earth did not form until long after the beginning
of the present Universe and after the formation of the
Sun, and many other stars.


JONAH AND THE WHALE  Totally implausible.


As the story is related in the Book of Jonah, the prophet
Jonah is called by God to go to Nineveh (a great Assyrian
city) and prophesy disaster because of the city's
wickedness. Jonah, in the story, feels about Nineveh as does
the author of the Book of Nahum-that the city must
inevitably be destroyed because of God's judgment against
it. Thus Jonah does not want to prophesy, because Nineveh
might repent and thereby be saved. So he rushes down to
Joppa and takes passage in a ****p that will carry him in the
opposite direction, thinking to escape God.

A storm of unprecedented severity strikes the ****p, and it
shows signs of breaking up and foundering. Jonah confesses
that it is his presence on board that is causing the storm.
At his request, he is thrown overboard, and the storm subsides.

A "great fish," appointed by God, swallows Jonah, and he
stays within the fish's maw for three days and nights. He
prays for deliverance and is "vomited out" on dry land 
(ch. 2).



> Here
> is where the Koran fails miserably in its attempt to replace the Bible.
> the plans of Satan and His attack on the church and The Christ are
> revealed.
> Here despite death for all of the earth's inhabitants, salvation is
> revealed. Not by works, but by faith and that not blindly for God has
> provided
> prophecy that all may see.
> 
> Islam is a satanic counterfeit  that attacks Jesus Christ directly. It
> states that Christ was nothing more than a prophet, and that Mohammed is
> greater
> that Him and all the other Biblical  prophets that pointed to Christ-
the
> Savior and the Son of God. ( see Psalm 22, Isaiah 53,  7:14, Micah 5:2,
> Zechariah 9:9, Deuteronomy 18:18 (the one Muslims try to hijack the
most,
> compare with
> John 6:14  Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus
did,
> said,
> This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.),
> Genesis 49:10&11, Psalm 2:7; there are several hundred others. Yet  it
> doesn't address the fact that there were other prophets after Christ,
true
> prophets -  the apostle John and his Revelation,  (also Act 15:32  And
> Judas
> and Silas, being themselves also prophets, exhorted the brethren with
many
> words, and confirmed them.)
> 
>  It rejects future prophets, not those chasing falsehoods and bred in
> deception and violence, but rather those who are blessed with the latter
> rain having kept God's commandments through Jesus Christ - His Son. Acts
> 2:17  And it shall
> come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit
> upon
> all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your
young
> men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: It rejects
> Gods
> Ten Commandments, written by His finger, an unchanging and eternal God,
> and
> the faith of Jesus Christ. see Revelation 14:12 &  Revelation 19:10. It
> shall bring about the end of civilization as we know it see Daniel 11:35
> to
> 12:5,  Isaiah 24. Serving a god of war, and not the God of
Righteousness.
> Prove it you say?...
> 
> Psalms 14:1  ¶<<To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.>> The fool hath
> said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
> abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
> 2  The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if
> there were any that did understand, and seek God.
> 3  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there
is
> none that doeth good, no, not one.
> 
> Christianity and Crusaders? Biblically there is a difference and like
> Islam,
> it was forewarned about in the Bible.
> 
> 1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
> He
> is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
> 
>  Mathew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your
> Father, which is in heaven.
> 10  Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
> 11  But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
> 12  And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall
> humble himself shall be exalted.
> 
> The Pope
> 
> Daniel 7:25  And he shall speak great words against the most High, and
> shall
> wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and
laws:
> and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the
> dividing of time.( The Pope thinks to change the Ten Commandments, The
> Sabbath - the sign of the True Creator, and Idolatry) Note despite
> Christ's
> warning the Priests of this faith call themselves father, and the pope -
> the
> most holy father.....hence blasphemy of the True Father in Heaven.
> 
> 2 Thessalonians 2:3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day
> shall
> not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be
> revealed, the son of perdition;
> 4  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or
that
> is wor****pped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing
> himself that he is God.(Thinking he's changed God's sabbath to Sunday,
> killing and conquering in the name of Jesus (and neglecting the cross)
for
> filthy lucre and power. He calls himself the most holy father....total
> blasphemy against Jesus' own words)
> 
> Revelation 13:1  ¶And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast
> rise
> up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns
> ten
> crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
> 2  And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were
as
> the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon
> gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
> 3  And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his
deadly
> wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. (Wounded
by
> Napoleon in 1798, healed by Mussolini)
> 4  And they wor****pped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and
> they
> wor****pped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to
> make war with him?
> Revelation 13:5  And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great
> things
> and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two
> months.
> 6  And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his
> name,
> and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
> 7  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome
> them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and
nations.
> 8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall wor****p him, whose names are
> not
> written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the
> world.
> 9  If any man have an ear, let him hear.
> 10  He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that
> killeth
> with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and
the
> faith of the saints. (written to avoid any wavering of faith due to the
> Roman church's claims versus her actions)
> 
> Revelation 17:2  With whom the kings of the earth have committed
> fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with
> the
> wine of her fornication.
> 3  So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a
> woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy,
> having
> seven heads and ten horns.
> 4  And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked
with
> gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand
full
> of
> abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
> 5  And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
> THE
> MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
> (Babylon the source of may nations, tongue peoples, and faiths despite
> Ephesians 4:5)
> 6  And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with
the
> blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great
> admiration.
> 7  ¶And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell
> thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which
> hath the seven heads and ten horns.
> 8  The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of
the
> bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth
> shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the
> foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is
not,
> and yet is.
> Revelation 17:9  And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads
> are
> seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
> Revelation 14:12  Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that
> keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
> 
> The seven heads are the mountains of Rome - the city of 7 hills . Check
an
> encyclopedia.
> The church - a virgin. So then, a corrupt church - a whore.
> This power sought to destroy the Bible, keeping it in Latin so that very
> few
> could read it.
> This power sought to resolve various worldly religions with itself -
> selling
> its virtue in the process:
> Prayer beads - the rosary
> The merger with paganism - the wor****p of the Heavens including the sun
-
> Changing God's Sabbath to Sunday (Daniel 7:25) the venerable day of the
> sun,
> and the day Christ rose from the Dead. Made law by Roman emperor
> Constantine
> in 538 AD
> The merging of pagan holidays within the so called church. (Mostly
around
> the equinoxes and other seasonal changes...Christmas, Easter etc.)
> Idolatry - images of who?
> 
> ISLAM THE TRUTH - A prophet greater than Jesus Christ?   Revelation
16:13
> 
> Daniel 11:37  Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the
> desire
> of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
> (Mohammed)
> 38  But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom
> his
> fathers(Abraham and the true Prophets) knew not shall he honour with
gold,
> and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things (Mosques).
> 39  Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god
(Allah),
> whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause
them
> 
> to rule
> over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
> 40  And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him:
> and
> the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with
> chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ****ps; and he shall enter
into
> the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
> 41  He shall enter also into the glorious land (Israel), and many
> countries
> shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom,
> and
> Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
> 42  He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the
land
> of
> Egypt shall not escape.
> 43  But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver,
and
> over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the
Ethiopians
> shall be at his steps.
> 44  But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him:
> therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to
> make
> away many.
> 45  And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in
> the
> glorious holy mountain(al aqsa in Jerusalem,oh yes and the dome of the
> rock
> ...it did say tabernacles didn't it); yet he shall come to his end,
> and none shall help him.
> Daniel 12:1  ¶And at that time shall Michael stand up(Judgement on the
> earth
> is past. Read the Book of Hebrews in the New Testament), the great
prince
> which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time
> of
> trouble,  (Started by the destruction of the oil fields,of which some
> sheiks
> & clerics are already planning, but will not be able to accomplish til
the
> Lord allows it.) such as never was since there was a nation even to that
> same time: and at
> that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found
> written in the book
> 
> The burning of the oil fields including Iraq (Babylon).....oh yes
America
> will be involved in this!
> 
> Revelation 18:10  Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying,
> Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour
is
> thy judgment come.
> 11  And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no
> man
> buyeth their merchandise any more:
> 12  The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of
> pearls,
> and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood,
> and
> all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious
wood,
> and of brass, and iron, and marble
> 
> Adios,    Iraq,Saudi Arabia and much of the Middle East, oh yeah and I
> guess
> the world's economy.....oh
> 
> THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
> Written by God's finger in stone... an unchanging God!
> 
> Exodus 20:3  Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
> 4  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of
any
> thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that
is
> in the water under the earth: (crying statues of Mary?)
> 5  Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the
LORD
> thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the
> children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
> 6  And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my
> commandments.
> 7  Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the
LORD
> will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
> 8  Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
> 9  Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
> 10  But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou
> shalt
> not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant,
nor
> thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy
> gates:
> 11  For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all
that
> in
> them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the
> Sabbath
> day, and hallowed it. (Saturday , actually from Friday sunset to
Saturday
> sunset)
> 12  ¶Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon
the
> land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
> 13  Thou shalt not kill.
> 14  Thou shalt not commit adultery.
> 15  Thou shalt not steal.
> 16  Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
> 17  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy
> neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox,
nor
> his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
> 18  ¶And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the
> noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw
> it,
> they removed, and stood afar off.
> 19  And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but
> let
> not God speak with us, lest we die.
> 
> Matthew 5:17  ¶Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the
> prophets:
> I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. ( Christ speaking here)
> 
> John 10:10  The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to
> destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have
it
> more abundant
> 
> Another thread:
> 
> America:
> 
> Revelation 13:11  ¶And I beheld another beast coming up out of the
earth;
> and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
> After the nuclear destruction of the Middle East oil fields
> US shall mandate its own religion and make and image to the Beast
> (Catholicism & the Pope or Church state) . There shall no longer be a
> separation of church
> and state ( the two horns or powers ) but Sunday laws (in contradiction
to
> 
> God's
> Sabbath) and the true Christian mind set .
> IN OTHER WORDS -- forced religious observance, hence speaking as a
dragon
> (no longer a lamb)
> Sound familiar.........forced religion  (The beast and the false
prophet)
> 
> And so you have the puzzle of Rev. 16:13: Catholicism and its forced
> observance, Protestantism and its upcoming force observance (Sunday
Laws,
> despite the Sabbath being the 7th day, and Islam and its forced
observance
> of religion). All shall have power to control your ability to work - to
> buy
> and sell as it were. And all ignore God's fourth Commandment, as do the
> Atheists (needless to say, but they'll do  what the various governments
> tell
> them)
> 
> Compare Deuteronomy 6:8  And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine
> hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. (Ten
> Commandments)
> w/ :
> Revelation 13:13  And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire
come
> down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
> 14  And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those
> miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to
> them
> that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast,
> which
> had the wound by a sword, and did live.
> 15  And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast (church
> state
> albeit dominantly Protestant), that the image of the beast should both
> speak, and cause that as many as would not
> wor****p the image of the beast should be killed.
> 16  And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and
> bond,
> to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
> 17  And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the
> name of the beast, or the number of his name.
> 
> Some of the Jews wear these things on there foreheads (phylacteries?),
but
> the gist of the passages are what you do and how you think. The Ten
> Commandments, or man's variation thereof....
> (The Biblical Sabbath or Sunday....  man's variation  )
> 
> Anyway we're getting close to a real economic bummer....Cities will
> burn,(already seen this in LA & New York, etc. from little incidents
like
> power outages, or police aggression, but this will be world wide and
much
> worse), famine throughout the entire world, nuclear fallout from the oil
> fields...-
> desperate men will do
> desperate things
> 
> Again:
> Peace in the Middle East....  (or anywhere?) When our world leaders talk
> of
> this, WE SHOULD BE FRIGHTENED
> 
> 1 Thessalonians 5:3  For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then
> sudden
> destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and
they
> shall not escape.
> 
> Kind of makes me wonder what Bible our world leaders are reading
> anyway.......
> Anything less than this is a lie
> 
> The True State of Death
> 
> Ecclesiastes 9:5  For the living know that they shall die: but the dead
> know
> not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of
them
> is forgotten.
> 6  Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished;
> neither have they any more a ****tion for ever in any thing that is done
> under the sun.
> 
> In a nutshell
> 
> John 11:8  His disciples say unto him, Master, the Jews of late sought
to
> stone thee; and goest thou thither again?
> 9  Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man
walk
> in
> the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.
> 10  But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no
> light
> in him.
> 11  These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend
> Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
> 12  Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.
> 13  Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had
spoken
> of
> taking of rest in sleep.
> 14  Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.
> 15  And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, to the intent ye
> may
> believe; nevertheless let us go unto him.
> 16  Then said Thomas, which is called Didymus, unto his fellowdisciples,
> Let
> us also go, that we may die with him.
> 17  ¶Then when Jesus came, he found that he had lain in the grave four
> days
> already.
> 18  Now Bethany was nigh unto Jerusalem, about fifteen furlongs off:
> 19  And many of the Jews came to Martha and Mary, to comfort them
> concerning
> their brother.
> 20  Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and
met
> him: but Mary sat still in the house.
> 21  Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my
brother
> had not died.
> 22  But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will
> give it thee.
> 23  Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
> 
> John 11:24  Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in
the
> resurrection at the last day. (Im****tant there are many who seem to be
> confused here)
> 25  Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that
> believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
> 26  And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest
> thou
> this?
> 27  She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ,
the
> Son of God, which should come into the world.
> 28  And when she had so said, she went her way, and called Mary her
sister
> secretly, saying, The Master is come, and calleth for thee.
> 29  As soon as she heard that, she arose quickly, and came unto him.
> 30  Now Jesus was not yet come into the town, but was in that place
where
> Martha met him.
> 31  The Jews then which were with her in the house, and comforted her,
> when
> they saw Mary, that she rose up hastily and went out, followed her,
> saying,
> She goeth unto the grave to weep there.
> 32  Then when Mary was come where Jesus was, and saw him, she fell down
at
> his feet, saying unto him, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had
> not
> died.
> 33  ¶When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping
which
> came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled,
> 34  And said, Where have ye laid him? They said unto him, Lord, come and
> see.
> 35  Jesus wept. ( for the great unbelief of man)
> 36  Then said the Jews, Behold how he loved him!
> 37  And some of them said, Could not this man, which opened the eyes of
> the
> blind, have caused that even this man should not have died?
> 38  Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It
was
> a
> cave, and a stone lay upon it.
> 39  Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that
was
> dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been
> dead
> four days.
> John 11:40  Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou
> wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
> 41  Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was
laid.
> And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou
> hast
> heard me.
> 42  And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people
> which
> stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.
> 43  And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus,
come
> forth.
> 44  And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with
> graveclothes:
> and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose
> him, and let him go.
> 45  ¶Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things
> which
> Jesus did, believed on him.
> 46  But some of them went their ways to the Pharisees, and told them
what
> things Jesus had done.
> 47  Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and
said,
> What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
> 48  If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the
Romans
> shall come and take away both our place and nation. (Lucifer's
> interjection,
> no doubt)
> 49  And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same
year,
> said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
> 50  Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die
for
> the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
> 51  And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year,
he
> prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
> 52  And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather
together
> in
> one the children of God that were scattered abroad. Jews and Gentiles
> 
> 1 Thessalonians 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord,
> that
> we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not
> prevent
> them which are asleep.
> 16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with
the
> voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
Christ
> shall rise first:
> 17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with
> them
> in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with
> the
> Lord. (Meet Him in the Air -  ANYTHING ELSE IS A LIE ! )
> 18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
> 
> BUT just  before.... Satan appears for one last lie:
> 
> Corinthians 11:14  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into
an
> angel of light.
> 
> 2 Thessalonians 2:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in
> them
> that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they
> might be saved.
> 11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they
> should
> believe a lie:
> 12  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had
> pleasure in unrighteousness.
> 
> Why so many denominations and religions ?
> 
> Ephesians 4:5  One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
> 
> 2 Peter 1:21  For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man:
> but
> holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
> 
> 2 Peter 2:1  ¶But there were false prophets also among the people, even
as
> there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in
> damnable
> heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon
> themselves
> swift destruction.
 




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WHICH GOD IS REAL?
"Bill M" <wm  2008-04-27 11:51:38 
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Just Visiting <nospam-  2008-04-27 12:19:49 
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"uragoner" <  2008-04-27 12:32:40 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-04-27 13:55:42 
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John Locke <johnlocke9  2008-04-27 16:26:08 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-04-27 19:39:26 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-04-27 23:08:10 
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"Cosmic programmer&q  2008-04-28 09:58:08 
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DanielSan <danielsan19  2008-04-27 22:01:21 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-04-28 01:02:56 
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Therion Ware <autodele  2008-04-28 16:50:07 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-04-28 04:31:01 
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"Cosmic programmer&q  2008-04-28 18:10:34 
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"Bill M" <wm  2008-04-28 11:14:48 
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"Cosmic programmer&q  2008-04-28 21:34:11 
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"Bill M" <wm  2008-04-28 19:44:56 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-04-30 20:38:02 
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"Bill M" <wm  2008-04-28 11:11:22 
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panamfloyd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-28 17:03:35 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-04-30 10:58:52 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-04-30 20:42:02 
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Richo <m.richardson61@  2008-04-30 00:43:36 
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SkyEyes <skyeyes9@[EMA  2008-04-30 12:07:39 
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