"monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Adonis wrote:
>
>>
>> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>> panamfloyd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 16, 11:56 pm, saint7pe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>> On May 16, 9:35 pm, Douglas Berry
<penguin_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Thu, 15 May 2008 04:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Phoenix
>>>>> > <phoenixhasri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> carved the following into the hard
>>>>> > stone of alt.atheism
>>>>>
>>>>> > >On May 15, 9:43 pm, "Winsome" <Wins...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > >> Ridiculous!
>>>>>
>>>>> > >> The truth is simply this: The 'greatest single cause of Atheism
in
>>>>> > >> the world today' is the utterly basic fact that *you haven't
got a
>>>>> > >> god to show us*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes God remains occult, only to reappear when He wants, not
when
>>>>> you want.
>>>>
>>>> I have heard so many of you claim such nonsense that it has become a
>>>> cliche. Do you not realize that if this creature has the knowledge
and
>>>> power you claim it does, then behavior like that is a sign of
>>>> neurosis? Your god, if it exists, does not deserve "wor****p". It
needs
>>>> therapy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's put it this way.
>>> We don't know God's true mode of existence.
>>
>> Mike...er monkfish, just by saying you don't know it's true existence
is
>> saying that it does exist in some fa****on or another.
>>
>>
>>> I would rather say that God is prior to existence
>>
>> Which is saying god has always been in existence, it has no beginning,
it
>> has no end, it is infinite.
>>
>>> but as most people here insist that
>>> God has to exist to be believed,
>>
>> Yes, that is the case. Do you believe in big foot? Santa clause?
>>
>>> I am willing to say that God can appear to us
>>> and in that case God exists for us.
>>
>> When you say that it can appear, that is implying that there is a
tangible
>> relation****p. Cause and effect.
>>
>>> But God reveals Himself to us
>>> in whatever way He pleases.
>>>
>>
>> Which way is that? How do you know it is revealing it's self?
>>
>>> God can appear as a dove.
>>> As love, as a spirit, and even as a whisper.
>>>
>>
>> So I see a dove, is that god? Showing concern for another human being,
or
>> showing kindness is not directly the effects of a god. You hear
whispers?
>> Do you mean voices in your head?
>>
>>> Are you going to say now that
>>> God has to exist in the mode prescribed by you?
>>>
>>
>> An all powerful creator that so desperately wants to give you
everlasting
>> life should not have to resort to mystical revelations.
>
>
> Even if He respects us so much
> as to let us choose to believe?
>
>
You have a choice to believe a tale or not. It has nothing to do with
respect.
There is nothing in example of respect towards humans from this god you
cant
describe.
> --
> monkfish
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