On May 8, 8:40=A0pm, arah <arah1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> My dear Rowland Croucher.
>
> Why must the Christians go to Church? Jesus does not encourage his
> followers to go to Church and he does not built any Church either
> during his lifetime.
>
> Mark 7:6-13 (New International Version)
>
> =A06He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you
> hypocrites; as it is written:
> =A0 =A0" 'These people honor me with their lips,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 but their hearts are far from me.
> =A07They worship me in vain;
> =A0 =A0 =A0 their teachings are but rules taught by men.'[a] 8You have
let=
> go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of
> men."
>
> =A09And he said to them: "You have a fine way of setting aside the
> commands of God in order to observe[b] your own traditions! 10For
> Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother,'[c] and, 'Anyone who
> curses his father or mother must be put to death.'[d] 11But you say
> that if a man says to his father or mother: 'Whatever help you might
> otherwise have received from me is Corban' (that is, a gift devoted to
> God), 12then you no longer let him do anything for his father or
> mother. 13Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you
> have handed down. And you do many things like that."
>
> In the Name of Allah =A0Most Merciful and Most Beneficient
>
> "Alif. Lam. Mim.
>
> Allah! There is no God save Him, the Alive, the Eternal. =A0He hath
> revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming
> that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and
> the Gospel. =A0Aforetime, for a guidance to mankind; and hath revealed
> the Criterion of right and wrong. Lo! those who disbelieve the
> revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. Allah is Mighty,
> Able to Requite (the wrong). =A0Lo! nothing in the earth or in the
> heavens is hidden from Allah. =A0He it is Who fashioneth you in the
> wombs as pleaseth Him. There is no God save Him, the Almighty, the
> Wise. =A0He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture
> wherein are clear revelations - they are the substance of the Book -
> and others (which are) allegorical. But those in whose hearts is doubt
> pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause)
> dissension by seeking to explain it. None knoweth its explanation save
> Allah. And those who are of sound instruction say: We believe therein;
> the whole is from our Lord; but only men of understanding really
> heed. =A0Our Lord! Cause not our hearts to stray after Thou hast guided
> us, and bestow upon us mercy from Thy Presence. Lo! Thou, only Thou,
> art the Bestower. =A0Our Lord! Lo! it is Thou Who gatherest mankind
> together to a Day of which there is no doubt. Lo! Allah faileth not to
> keep the tryst. =A0(On that Day) neither the riches nor the progeny of
> those who disbelieve will aught avail them with Allah"
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
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=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Holy
> Quran Al- Emran 1-9
>
> Simple interpretation:
>
> "Allah there is no God but Him the Eternal the Living. =A0He has
> revealed to you this Book with the truth confirming the Scripture as
> He revealed the Torah and the Injeel (Gospel) before this as a
> Guidance for Mankind. =A0And He revealed the Al-Furqan (Quran) as a
> Criterion judgement between Right and Wrong.
>
> Those who reject God's revelation will certainly be punished. =A0God is
> mighty and capable of retribution. =A0Nothing is hidden from Him in the
> Earth as in the Heaven. It is He who shapes your bodies from the womb
> of your mother as He pleased. None has the right to be worshipped but
> Him. =A0The Mighty the Wise. =A0He is the One who revealed to you this
> Book. =A0Some of its verses are directive (Mukhamat). =A0They are the
> foundation of the Book. =A0While others are allegorical (Mutashabihat).
>
> Those whose hearts are infected with disbelieve follow the allegorical
> part to misled others and to give it their own interpretation.
>
> Those who are grounded in Knowledge say "We believe in it. It is all
> from our Rabb (Lord).But none will take heed except those who have the
> foundation of the Al-Quran"
>
> Cheers
>
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Jim
Mt 24:11 -And many false prophets shall rise,
and shall deceive many.
> On May 9, 9:14 am, **Rowland Croucher**
>
>
>
> <rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > May 8, 2008
>
> > Churchgoing on its knees as Christianity falls out of favour
>
> > Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
>
> > Church attendance in Britain is declining so fast that the number of
> > regular churchgoers will be fewer than those attending mosques within
a
> > generation, research published today suggests.
>
> > The fall - from the four million people who attend church at least
once
> > a month today - means that the Church of England, Catholicism and
other
> > denominations will become financially unviable. A lack of funds from
the=
> > collection plate to support the Christian infrastructure, including
> > church upkeep and ministers=92 pay and pensions, will force church
> > closures as ageing congregations die.
>
> > In contrast, the number of actively religious Muslims will have
> > increased from about one million today to 1.96 million in 2035.
>
> > According to Religious Trends, a comprehensive statistical analysis of
> > religious practice in Britain, published by Christian Research, even
> > Hindus will come close to outnumbering churchgoers within a
generation.
> > The forecast to 2050 shows churchgoing in Britain declining to 899,000
> > while the active Hindu population, now at nearly 400,000, will have
more=
> > than doubled to 855,000. By 2050 there will be 2,660,000 active
Muslims
> > in Britain - nearly three times the number of Sunday churchgoers.
>
> > The research is based on analysis of membership and attendance of all
> > the religious bodies in Britain, including a church census in 2005.
>
> > Coming just months after the Archbishop of Canterbury suggested that
the=
> > introduction of aspects of sharia into British law was unavoidable,
the
> > report is likely to fuel calls for the disestablishment of the Church
of=
> > England.
>
> > Martin Salter, the Labour MP for Reading West and a member of Reading
> > inter-faith group, said: =93I think all faiths could be treated
equally
> > under our constitution. These figures demonstrate the absurdity of
> > favouring one brand of Christianity over other parts of the Christian
> > faith and the many other religions that grace our shores.=94
>
> > Hazel Blears, the Communities Secretary with responsibility for
> > community cohesion, said: =93We will look at these findings very
closely=
..
> > Britain is a secular democracy with a strong Christian tradition but
> > many faiths have a home in Britain.=94
>
> > The report makes it clear that Christianity is becoming a minority
> > religion. It also reflects the changing nature of religious practice
> > worldwide and will further aid the stated aim of the Prince of Wales
> > who, on his Coronation, hopes to become Defender of Faith rather than
> > Defender of the Faith.
>
> > Only in the large, evangelical churches of the Baptist and independent
> > denominations is there resistance to the trend, but many of these
> > churches also show some decline. One small area of growth is in
Northern=
> > Ireland, where the enthusiasm of Pentecostals and other independents
has=
> > led to a slight increase in numbers of churches - a trend expected to
> > continue to 2050. The three growing denominations are the Orthodox,
> > Pentecostals and smaller denominations, all dependent to a degree on
> > immigration.
>
> > The crisis is particularly acute for Methodists and Presbyterians, as
> > many worshippers are aged over 65. The report predicts that these
> > churches might well have merged with others by 2030. =93The primary
caus=
e
> > of the decrease in attendance is that people are simply dying off,=94
th=
e
> > report says.
>
> > By 2050 there will be just 3,600 churchgoing Methodists left in
Britain,=
> > Christian Research predicts. Anglicans will be down to 87,800,
Catholics=
> > to 101,700, Presbyterians to 4,400, Baptists to 123,000 and
independents=
> > to 168,000.
>
> > The national breakdown shows similar declines across England, Wales
and
> > Scotland. Churchgoing across all denominations in England will fall
from=
> > about 3 million today to about 700,000 in 2050. In Wales it will
tumble
> > from 200,000 to 42,000 and in Scotland, from 550,000 to 140,000. The
> > figures take into account the recent boost to Catholicism from the
> > number of Polish immigrants to Britain, particularly in Scotland.
>
> > The report predicts that by 2030, when Dr Rowan Williams=92s successor
a=
s
> > Archbishop of Cantebury will be approaching retirement, there could be
> > just 350,000 people attending just 10,000 Anglican churches, with an
> > average of 35 worshippers each. The next Archbishop after that could
> > find his position =93totally nonviable=94, the report says, with just
> > 180,000 worshippers in 6,000 churches by 2040.
>
> > David Voas, a professor of population studies at the Institute for
> > Social Change at the University of Manchester, said: =93The difficulty
i=
s
> > in retaining the children who have churchgoing parents. So long as
> > churchgoing is something that gets you laughed at, so long as there is
a=
> > social stigma attached to being a churchgoing young person, it will be
> > difficult to reverse the trend.=94 He said that young Muslims operated
i=
n
> > a different environment. =93Being religious is a way that you show you
a=
re
> > different, that you are proud of your heritage. One of the ways young
> > Muslims assert their identity is by being more observant than their
> > parents.=94
>
> > The Church of England disputed the forecasts last night. Lynda Barley,
> > its head of research, said: =93These statistics represent a partial
> > picture of religious trends today. In recent years church life has
> > significantly diversified so these traditional statistics are less and
> > less meaningful in isolation.
>
> > =93There are more than 1.7 million people worshipping in a Church of
> > England church or cathedral each month, a figure that is 30 per cent
> > higher [than the Sunday attendance figure used by Christian Research]
> > and has remained stable since 2000. We have no reason to believe that
> > this will drop significantly.=94
>
> > =97 Hundreds of churches are protesting at soaring water bills, with
som=
e
>
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