On Thu, 8 May 2008 17:54:13 -0700 (PDT),
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> "Chris
C. Larson"
<larsonchris321@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On May 8, 3:35 pm, Craig Stevens <craig_stev...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>Scott:
>Someone needs to teach you how archiving works. The original posts
>does not go away. And folks (lurkers as you call them) don't waste
>time on posters like you. So, I'll only address the points that are
>worth addressing:
>
>>>
>> What I post and how often I post is none of your business. Most people
don't look through
>> the archives. This very post and its topic which you seek to diminish
may be seen by a
>> lurker for the first time. Lurkers see the material at the bottom so
you to can search and
>> verify the Jewish Talmud for yourself.
>
>#1- you're the one who's ****ing his pants because I "deleted the
>post".
Your "Christian" spirit is showing again.
>And Bradbury-
My name is Stevens
>you are the kind that thinks that what you read is
>the truth, just like the rest of the racist, lazy sheep. I'll judge
>Jews by how they act, not by what lazy fat racists pull off of anti-
>semitic sites.
95% of what was cited is from Jewish sources. My but you never read what I
post.
>> Anyone reading the included texts and links will see what Jews teach.
>>
>> Hundreds if not thousands of rabbis sucking the bloody ***** of the
infant
>> they just cir***cised. Why don't you show anywhere in the Law of Moses
where
>> sucking a bloody ***** after cir***cision is commanded. It's not in the
Bible
>> but it is in the Jewish Talmud which dates from the Pharisees (the same
filth Jesus
>> often condemned for shoving aside Gods commandments to preserve their
traditions of
>> men).
>> Perverted Jewish cir***cision tradition.
>>
>> http://www.jewishledger.com/articles/2006/02/23/news/news02.txt
>> "In metzitzah b'peh, a mohel orally sucks blood from the site of the
genital cut he makes
>> during the cir***cision procedure."
>
>Jesus was cir***cized. So was I, as are most males in the U.S. More
>non-Jews are cir***cized than Jews.
The point being---> No rabbi sucked a bloody ***** in the case of Jesus.
That perverted
tradition known metzitzah b'peh is something the perverted Pharisees later
dreamed up.
Why don't you show the Bible scriptures and provide proof the infant's
***** was to be sucked.
>> http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt05.html#Sodomy_Approved
>> Baby boys may always be used as subjects for sodomy by grown men,
according to the Talmud. The
>> Pharisaic subterfuge here is that until a child reaches ***ual
maturity, capable of ***ual
>> intercourse, he or she does not rank as a person, hence Biblical laws
against sodomy
>> (pederasty) do not apply. Throughout the Talmud "nine years and one
day" is the fictitious age
>> of male maturity.
>
>Name 1- just 1 is all you have to name.
How about NAMBLA Boy Alan Ginsberg? He is well known and dead too. I don't
think pederasts in
general go around announcing they diddle little boys.
http://www.nambla.org/ginsberg.htm
Attacks on NAMBLA stink of politics, witchhunting for profit,
humorlessness, vanity, anger and
ignorance ... I'm a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too
(((Picture of the pederast Ginsberg who rots in hell-->
http://www.nambla.org/allen1.jpg
Ginsberg was one sick Chickenhawk.)))
A google web search turned up some interesting returns regarding NAMBLA
and Jews.
http://tinyurl.com/62maam
Web Results 1 - 50 of about 35,000 English
pages for NAMBLA Jewish.
Jewish Survivors of ***ual Violence Speak Out: Escaped Convict ...Dec 9,
2006 ... Child
Psychiatrist - Rabbi Alan Horowitz, MD (AKA: the NAMBLA Rabbi) is still
... posted by Jewish
Survivors at Saturday, December 09, 2006 ...
http://jewishsurvivors.blogspot.com/2006/12/escaped-convict-benny-sela-captured.html
- 17k -
Cached - Similar pages
Jewish Survivors of ***ual Violence Speak Out: New information ...Sep 8,
2005 ... Please
remember that this rabbi is/was a writer for NAMBLA (North American ...
posted by Jewish
Survivors at Thursday, September 08, 2005 ...
http://jewishsurvivors.blogspot.com/2005/09/new-information-ohr-somayach-in-monsey.html
I'd say that rabbi was acting upon Talmudic teachings.
June 21, 2002 Years later someone who is not Jewish was still impressed
enough to work .....
"Rosenthal wrote that Ginsberg's member****p in NAMBLA was a free speech
issue ...
http://www.ijn.com/archive/2002%20arch/062102.htm
- 102k - Cached -
Similar pages
So advocating child molestation is a free speech issue? Rosenthal is
acting upon his Talmudic
leanings.
http://lukeford.net/blog/?p=313
The Orthodox Rabbi Who Wrote For NAMBLA
Dr. Alan Horowitz became a rabbi after he became a convicted *** offender.
As part of
rehabilitation and while on probation, Alan Horowitz was court ordered to
attended cl***** at
Ohr Somayach Ye****va in Monsey, NY.
During Alan Horowitz’s reign of terror (against children) he wrote the
following article
(deleted) for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association).
Background Information
Updated Background Information on Rabbi Alan J. Horowitz
Rabbi Alan J. Horowitz, MD, is a convicted *** offender who is also an
ordained Orthodox rabbi.
As a psychiatrist, Horowitz specialized in working with adolescents. His
resume also includes
volunteering time as a Boy Scout leader and being a writer for NAMBLA
(North American Man/Boy
Love Association) publications.
<STOP>
Count the Jews in NAMBLA's leaders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA
"....Judge O'Toole found that David Thorstad, Dennis Bejin, Joe Power,
David Miller (also known
as David Menasco), Peter Melzer (also known as Peter Herman), Arnold
Schoen (also known as
Floyd Conaway), Dennis Mintun, Chris Farrell, Tim Bloomquist, Te***seh
Brown, Gary Hann, Peter
Reed, Robert Schwartz, Walter Bieder and Leyland Stevenson were or had
been members of the
NAMBLA Steering Committee or had held other leading positions in the
organization....."
Melzer, Schoen, Bloomquist, Schwartz and Bieder. That's a dispro****tionate
number of Jews in
relation to Jews being only ~2.5% of America's population. Left out of
Wikipedia's list were
Rabbi Horowitz who was a writer for NAMBLA and Alan Ginsberg-- the
official poet for NAMBLA.
>> Sanhedrin 54b
>> Our Rabbis taught: In the case of a male child, a young one is
not regarded as on a par
>> with an old one; but a young beast is treated as an old one.23 What is
meant by this? — Rab
>> said: Pederasty with a child below nine years of age is not deemed as
pederasty with a child
>> above that. Samuel said: Pederasty with a child below three years is
not treated as with a
>> child above that.24 What is the basis of their dispute? — Rab
maintains that only he who is
>> able to engage in ***ual intercourse, may, as the passive subject of
pederasty throw guilt
>> [upon the active offender]; whilst he who is unable to engage in ***ual
intercourse cannot be a
>> passive subject of pederasty [in that respect].25
>> Footnotes:
>> 23 The reference is to the passive subject of sodomy. As stated
supra 54a, guilt is incurred
>> by the active participant even if the former be a minor, i.e., less
than thirteen years old.
>> Now, however, it is stated that within this age a distinction is drawn.
>> 24 I.e., Rab makes nine years the minimum; but if one committed
sodomy with a child of
>> lesser age, no guilt is incurred. Samuel makes three the minimum.
>> 25 At nine years a male attains ***ual matureness.
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Likewise, under "nine years and one day," the "first stage of
intercourse" of a boy with the
>> mother, or any grown woman, is harmless, Talmudically. Shammai, to seem
more "strict," lowers
>> the age to eight years in some cases. (See Sanhedrin 69b of the Talmud)
>>
>> Sanhedrin 69b
>> Our Rabbis taught: If a woman s****ted lewdly with her young son
[a minor], and he
>> committed the first stage of cohabitation with her, — Beth Shammai say,
he thereby renders her
>> unfit to the priesthood. Beth Hillel declare her fit. R. Hiyya the son
of Rabbah b. Nahmani
>> said in R. Hisda's name; others state, R. Hisda said in Ze'iri's name:
All agree that the
>> connection of a boy aged nine years and a day is a real connection;
whilst that of one less
>> than eight years is not: their dispute refers only to one who is eight
years old, Beth Shammai
>> maintaining, We must base our ruling on the earlier generations, but6
Beth Hillel hold that we
>> do not.
>> ---------------
>>
>> "When a grown up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing,
for when the girl is
>> less than this — that is, less than three years old — it is as if one
puts the finger into the
>> eye — tears come to the eye again and again, so does virginity come
back to the little girl
>> under three years." (Kethuboth 11b of the Talmud)
>>
>> Kethuboth 11b
>> GEMARA. Rab Judah said that Rab said: A small boy who has
intercourse with a grown-up
>> woman makes her [as though she were] injured by a piece of wood. When I
said it before Samuel
>> he said: 'Injured by a piece of wood' does not apply to flesh. Some
teach this teaching by
>> itself: [As to] a small boy who has intercourse with a grown-up woman.
Rab said, he makes her
>> [as though she were] injured by a piece of wood; whereas Samuel said:
'Injured by a piece of
>> wood' does not apply to flesh. R. Oshaia objected: WHEN A GROWN-UP MAN
HAS HAD INTERCOURSE WITH
>> A LITTLE GIRL, OR WHEN A SMALL BOY HAS INTERCOURSE WITH A GROWN-UP
WOMAN, OR WHEN A GIRL WAS
>> ACCIDENTALLY INJURED BY A PIECE OF WOOD — [IN ALL THESE CASES] THEIR
KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED
>> [ZUZ]; SO ACCORDING TO R. MEIR. BUT THE SAGES SAY: A GIRL WHO WAS
INJURED ACCIDENTALLY BY A
>> PIECE OF WOOD — HER KETHUBAH IS A MANEH! Raba said, It means this: When
a grown-up man has
>> intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less
than this,6 it is as
>> if one puts the finger into the eye;7 but when a small boy has
intercourse with a grown-up
>> woman he makes her as 'a girl who is injured by a piece of wood,' and
[with regard to the case
>> of] 'a girl injured by a piece of wood,' itself, there is the
difference of opinion between R.
>> Meir and the Sages.
>
>
>Oh sure, this happens all the time <smile>
It is still a reaching from the Talmud which is central to Judaism.
>> I don't hate real Christianity but I do loathe the false antichrist
version.
>
>So, in your world, 98% of Christianity is wrong? <smile>
Broad is the road and narrow is the way. Does that ring a bell?
Why did you delete news groups and why did you delete the following?
>It must make your blood curl to know that 95% of the U.S. follows
>Judeo-Christianity.
There is no such thing in reality. Judeo-Christianity as you call it is
the
creation of clergy who have accepted their 30 pieces of silver from the
Pharisees to betray Jesus. Anyone with any bible knowledge knows the Jews
and the Christians were at odds from the very start with Jews being the
persecutors.
1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 "For you, brothers, became imitators of God's
churches
in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen
the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews, who killed the Lord
Jesus
and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile
to
all men."
Acts 9:22-23 "But Saul increased all the more in strength, and confounded
the
Jews who lived in Damascus by proving that Jesus was the Christ. When many
days
had passed, the Jews plotted to kill him."
Acts 13:45 "But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with
jealousy,
and contradicted what was spoken by Paul, and reviled him."
Acts 14:2,19 "But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles and
poisoned their
minds against the brethren. But Jews came there from Antioch and Ico'nium;
and
having persuaded the people, they stoned Paul and dragged him out of the
city,
supposing that he was dead."
>Have a nice Christian hating day!
I don't hate real Christianity but I do loathe the false antichrist
version.
Example of one of millions of antichrists dwelling in America;
From: Sara Salzman <catamont@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:55:49 -0500
Message-ID: <catamont-CFBE3C.21554905082005@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/fff52eca83b894a3
> May I ask if you acknowledge Jesus is the Christ or Messiah who
> came in the flesh?
I've answered it three times already. And since I happen to be Jewish,
why would you think I would believe any such thing?
Sara
The Biblical definition of an antichrist;
"Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard that
antichrist is coming,
even now there have come to be many antichrists. Who is the liar if it is
not the one that
denies that Jesus is the Christ? These things I write you about those who
are trying to mislead
you! For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as
coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. If anyone
comes to you and does
not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a
greeting to him. For he
that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
1 John 2:18,22,23 ; 2 John 7,10,11
Key scriptural passage "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world,
persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and
the antichrist" which
fits Jewess Salzman's reply of "And since I happen to be Jewish, why would
you think I would
believe any such thing?" when asked "May I ask if you acknowledge Jesus is
the Christ or
Messiah who came in the flesh?"
Remember folks these Jews are antichrists, Christ Haters and true enemies
of Christianity.
To quote antichrist Jewess Salzman again;
"[T]he fact that a Communist is anti-Christian makes perfect sense, since
Marx called religion the "opiate of the people."" - Sara Salzman
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>
"I have never made an "imflammatory" [sic] attack on Communism. I have
never
made ANY attack on Communism." - Sara Salzman
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>
To quote Jewish Rabbis;
"...Communism, despite its flaws and corruptions, has had a profound
effect on our sense of
social justice. Christianity, despite the horrendous atrocities it
perpetrated and justified,
played a major role in introducing, to a largely pagan world, the concepts
(though much
adulterated) of a one, omnipotent and non- cor****eal G-d and of a
messianic end-goal to
existence."
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/63558/jewish/IV-Wheres-the-Truth.htm
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HE WHO COMMITS SODOMY WITH A MALE OR A BEAST, AND A WOMAN THAT COMMITS
BESTIALITY ARE STONED.
(Sanhedrin 54a) However, if a grown man were to have ***ual relations with
a boy younger than
nine, the man would incur no guilt.
Leviticus 18:22 prohibits a man lying with a man, but not with a young
boy. Thus the Talmud
Sages reason: Pederasty with a child below nine years of age is not deemed
as pederasty …
Sanhedrin 54b
Young Girl http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/baby6.jpg
In the world of the Talmud Sages, grown men have ***ual intercourse with
girls younger than
three years old. The young girls are wounded and bleed from the activity,
but the Talmud Sages
were of the opinion that in one so young, virginity comes back:
"Intercourse with her is like
putting a finger in the eye," (Niddah 44b) and the tears come back again
and again. Apparently
the Sages attributed the repeated bleeding during copulations to the
repeated rupture of the
regenerated hymen.
"… Of Lesser Age, No Guilt is Incurred"
In modern America, *** between an adult and a child is condemned in
pro****tion to the youth of
the child. That is, Americans generally consider *** with a fifteen year
old, a twelve year
old, a six year old, and a three-year-old on a continuous scale of
condemnation. The younger
the child, the greater the condemnation.
Talmudic law works on the reverse scale: *** with younger children is less
significant than ***
with older children. How did this doctrine come about?
Scripture states thus:
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
— Leviticus 18:22 (KJV)
The Old Testament prohibits a man lying with a man; but notice, the Old
Testament does not
prohibit a man lying with a boy. Thus, the Talmud Sages arrive at their
position on pederasty.
In the following, bestiality said to be committed "naturally" when a man
uses the vaginal
passage of the beast, and "unnaturally" when a man uses the anal passage
of the beast. The
Sages make a similar distinction for the couplings of a woman with a
beast.
GEMARA. … Rab said: Pederasty with a child below nine years of age is not
deemed as pederasty
with a child above that. Samuel said: Pederasty with a child below three
years is not treated
as with a child above that. (2) What is the basis of their dispute? — Rab
maintains that only
he who is able to engage in ***ual intercourse, may, as the passive
subject of pederasty throw
guilt [upon the active offender]; whilst he who is unable to engage in
***ual intercourse
cannot be a passive subject of pederasty [in that respect]. (3) But Samuel
maintains: Scripture
writes, [And thou shalt not lie with mankind] as with the lyings of a
woman. (4)
It has been taught in accordance with Rab: Pederasty at the age of nine
years and a day; [55a]
[he] who commits bestiality, whether naturally or unnaturally; or a woman
who causes herself to
be bestially abused, whether naturally or unnaturally, is liable to
punishment. (5)
— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 54b - 55a
The translator, Rabbi Dr. H. Freedman, amplifies the text with footnotes.
Note particularly
footnote 2: "… but if one committed sodomy with a child of lesser age, no
guilt is incurred."
See also the final sentence of footnote 5: "… nine years (and a day) is
the minimum age of the
passive partner for the adult to be liable." (See Soncino Talmud Glossary
for definition of
Baraitha.)
2 I.e., Rab makes nine years the minimum; but if one committed sodomy
with a child of lesser
age, no guilt is incurred. Samuel makes three the minimum.
3 At nine years a male attains ***ual matureness.
4 Lev. XVIII, 22. Thus the point of comparison is the ***ual matureness
of woman, which is
reached at the age of three.
5 (Ra**** reads [H] instead of the [H] in our printed texts. A male, aged
nine years and a day
who commits etc.] There are thus three distinct clauses in this Baraitha.
The first — a male
aged nine years and a day — refers to the passive subject of pederasty,
the punishment being
incurred by the adult offender. This must be its meaning — because
firstly, the active offender
is never explicitly designated as a male, it being understood, just as the
Bible states, Thou
shalt not lie with mankind, where only the *** of the passive participant
is mentioned; and
secondly, if the age reference is to the active party, the guilt being
incurred by the passive
adult party, why single out pederasty: in all crimes of *****, the
passive adult does not
incur guilt unless the other party is at least nine years and a day? Hence
the Baraitha
sup****ts Rab's contention that nine years (and a day) is the minimum age
of the passive partner
for the adult to be liable.
— Rabbi Dr. Freedman
The plain English meaning of the Talmud text is clear, but if there is any
doubt, the Soncino
scholars put the matter to rest: No guilt is incurred with a boy child
younger than nine, even
in *****.
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