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> "Reuben Hick" <outerdarkness@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Semper Libr ." <.nopolicestates???!?~Hj77@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > "Reuben Hick" <outerdarkness@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> Let me first admit that what I propose here I could not find in over
> two
>> >> dozen commentaries by theologians over the spread of many centuries.
>> >> I
>> > have
>> >> listened to many sermons on the topic, and I have been to many
groups
> who
>> >> talked about this parable. What I have found is that every
> commentator
>> >> either ignores the parable, dismisses most of the symbolic
references,
> or
>> >> makes symbolic references that are fully unqualified: ie. Calling
>> >> the
>> >> virgins "Christians" or "believers", or calling the oil the Holy
> Spirit.
>> >> None of this is substantiated, and even the commentators note that
>> >> this
>> > can't
>> >> be taken too far.
>> >
>> > You got all this from the parable of the ten virgins? My hats off to
>> > ya,
>> > but
>> > I think you missed the point.
>> >
>> > The parable is about the imminence of Yeshua's return.
>>
>> "Imminence" = over 1970 years and still counting...
>
> Which by God's watch is a little less than two days....
There is no imminence. As in the days of Noah, the ones being removed from
His wrath will know the day.
Matthew 24:37
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of
man
be.
Genesis 7:4-5
For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty
days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I
destroy from off the face of the earth. [5] And Noah did according unto
all
that the Lord commanded him.
The flood came unexpectedly upon the rest of the world:
Matthew 24:38-39
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and
drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered
into the ark, [39] And knew not until the flood came, and took them all
away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
The church is to watch to know the hour:
"Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come" (Matt
24:42): "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a
thief,
and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee" (Rev. 3:3).
>
>> > That it was framed
>> > around the coming of the bridegroom speaks of the fact that Yeshua is
>> > coming
>> > first for his bride, and this coming could occur AT ANY MOMENT, to
take
>> > the
>> > bride to the Fathers house. Those that truly believe this are ready
for
>> > the
>> > trip, while those that think he will not come for some time (seven
more
>> > years at least, lets say) don't have enough oil because they don't
>> > truly
>> > believe his return is at hand.
>>
>> Too many details to dismiss and things like who is the bride and how is
> the
>> bride different from those who "truly believe"?
"Truly believe?" Anyone who believes truly believes and anyone who doesn't
doesn't believe. Unless you're looking forward to spending eternity in
hell
with the theologians who write the commentaries, books, and papers about
the
Bible, I recommend reading the Bible itself. It tells us that salvation is
by faith through grace, and the saved are an innumerable multitude (Rev
7:9). But the bride (the church) is the few chosen of the many called, and
what was determined before the foundation of the world is that He would
choose the ones who were conformed to the image of Christ: "For whom he
did
foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his
Son,
that he might be the firstborn among many brethren" (Rom 8:29): "Know ye
not
that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So
run,
that ye may obtain" (1 Cor. 9:24).
There are two resurrections: "Marvel not at this: for the time is coming,
in
the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come
forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they
that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment" (John 5:28-29).
The
church is the first resurrection (Rev 20:4-5) at the beginning of the day
of
the Lord (2 Pet 3:10), and the rest of the saved are in the resurrection
of
judgment at the end of the day.:
>
> No need to dismiss anything... You simply read it, and it's clearly
> regarding the difference between those servants who thought the
bridegroom
> might come at any minute, versus those that were just going through the
> motions, no doubt convinced in themselves that the bridegroom had other
> appointments first.
When the day for the bridegroom (Matt 25:1), and the ones who were
prepared
with their lamps burning brightly and full of oil (in the Spirit) when the
hour arrived (25:6) entered into the wedding.
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His,
http://selah.zxq.net/
ho echon ota akoueto Preparing the way of the
Lord
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Verily I say unto you, Whosoever
shall not receive the kingdom of God
as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
(Mark 10:15)
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