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Re: Parable of the Ten Virigins

by "Reuben Hick" <outerdarkness@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 2, 2008 at 11:28 PM

"Semper LibčrŽ ." <.nopolicestates???!?~Hj77@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in 
message news:czXIj.14029$9X3.9336@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> No need to dismiss anything... You simply read it, and it's clearly
> regarding the difference between those servants who thought the
bridegroom
> might come at any minute, versus those that were just going through the
> motions, no doubt convinced in themselves that the bridegroom had other
> appointments first.
>
> He even gives you a clue about the meaning of the parable after he 
> finished
> saying it:
> Mat 25:13 >Therefore watch<, for you do not know either the day or the 
> hour
> in which the Son of Man <bridegroom> comes.

Who was the audience ?

BTW, what you render "servant" is really ("parthenos" Greek) or "maiden, 
unmarried daughter".

They all "slumbered" (nustazo)  and "slept" (katheduo).   Nustazo gives
the 
feeling of the kind of sleep that you would get at work when no one is 
watching.   It isn't like you actually go into REM or SWS but drift in and

out of a somnolence.

Since ALL ten did it, I don't see any warning or scolding for it.

Also, not knowing the day or hour is not the same as saying "might come at

any minute".   For instance, it is true that no one knows the day or hour 
that our sun will nova, but by saying that, by no means should it be 
interpreted that it is imminent.   Even on smaller time scales, very very 
few people know the day and the hour they will die, yet few people will
call 
their eventual deaths "imminent".

> By the way.... the phrase "do not know either the day or the hour" also
> happens to be an idiom referencing the Feast of Trumpets or Rosh
Hashanah,
> in that it occurred on a new moon, and you had to have two witnesses to 
> the
> new moon before you could set the date.... The Feast of Trumpets is also
> called the "wedding of the Messiah"...
>
> You see a pattern here?

You need more than one example to establish a pattern.   eg.    "42" 
What is the pattern and what follows?

There is coincidence and there is cause & effect,  and there is "pattern".

Usually when someone brings up this piece of knowledge, I fully expect to 
get some reference to Daniel and the 70 weeks.  Is that what is next?

> Check out the parable He gave right before the 10 maidens...
>
>
> Mat 24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his Lord has
made
> ruler over His household, to give them food in due season?
>
> Mat 24:46 Blessed is that servant whom his Lord shall find him doing so 
> when
> He comes.
>
> Mat 24:47 Truly I say to you that He shall make him ruler over all His
> goods.
>
> Mat 24:48 But if that evil servant shall say in his heart, >My Lord
delays
> His coming,<
>
> Mat 24:49 and shall begin to strike his fellow servants (fellow 
> Christians),
> and to eat and drink with the drunken,
>
> Mat 24:50 the Lord of that servant shall come in a day when he >does not
> look for Him<, and in an hour which he does not know.
>

Well?  What about it?  What point are you making?  Did you read vv 43-44 
when we are told WHY the hour is to be kept hidden?

And should I make a big deal out of "weaping and gna****ng of teeth"
because 
that is a relevant idiom too...
 




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Parable of the Ten Virigins
"Reuben Hick" &  2008-03-30 21:27:34 
Re: Parable of the Ten Virigins
PrivateParty <rdbyrnef  2008-03-31 14:12:00 
Re: Parable of the Ten Virigins
"vernon O" <  2008-03-31 17:18:36 
Re: Parable of the Ten Virigins
"Reuben Hick" &  2008-04-02 23:08:08 
Re: Parable of the Ten Virigins
"Semper LibčrŽ   2008-04-01 00:19:06 
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"Reuben Hick" &  2008-04-03 01:49:06 
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