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>> "Semper LibčrŽ ." <.nopolicestates???!?~Hj77@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > "Reuben Hick" <outerdarkness@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> Let me first admit that what I propose here I could not find in over
> two
>> >> dozen commentaries by theologians over the spread of many centuries.
>> >> I
>> > have
>> >> listened to many sermons on the topic, and I have been to many
groups
> who
>> >> talked about this parable. What I have found is that every
> commentator
>> >> either ignores the parable, dismisses most of the symbolic
references,
> or
>> >> makes symbolic references that are fully unqualified: ie. Calling
>> >> the
>> >> virgins "Christians" or "believers", or calling the oil the Holy
> Spirit.
>> >> None of this is substantiated, and even the commentators note that
>> >> this
>> > can't
>> >> be taken too far.
>> >
>> > You got all this from the parable of the ten virgins? My hats off to
>> > ya,
>> > but
>> > I think you missed the point.
>> >
>> > The parable is about the imminence of Yeshua's return.
>>
>> "Imminence" = over 1970 years and still counting...
>
> Which by God's watch is a little less than two days....
So what is your point?
First rule of clear communication: put things in terms your intended
audience understands. If everyone you speak to thinks Imminence means
something is about to occur soon relative to their own lifetime, then the
message will be lost if you meant many generations afterwards.
Besides I don't see imminence taught in the parable. I do see "you don't
know when" and I do see that the bridegroom came rather late
(traditionally
the bridegroom comes in shortly after sunset). The midnight timing is a
rabbinical teaching and corresponds to the time of the Exodus - something
that is relevant to the audience.
I did find a message by the late S Lewis Johnson, professor at Dallas
Theological Seminary. I knew him as a classical pre-mill rather than
Dispy.
I'm amil, so I wasn't surprised when he brought up the "and the bride"
lost
words that were found in the earlier manuscripts. Not that it changes
anything from an amil/post-mil perspective.
http://www.believerschapeldallas.org/a/Johnson/slj-51_Matthew/083_SLJ_51_32K.m3u
He eisegetes a pre-mill eschatology into it. He also differs in that he
says the oil is the Paraclete. I struggle with that association since
"blessings" has a much richer support in the OT, and the Paraclete wasn't
revealed fully until Pentacost.
But at least I found someone who goes with the prophetic angle.
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