Talk About Network

Google


Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Religion > Presbyterian > Re: American Re...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 5 of 10 Topic 5680 of 5863
Post > Topic >>

Re: American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2008 Edition

by "Reuben Hick" <outerdarkness@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 23, 2008 at 07:55 PM

"Diana" <dianaiad@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:SgyFj.6837$Oj5.4750@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Daniel S. Vieira" <email-in-sig@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:13ucuu5j0qd0d00@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Diana wrote:
>>
>>> Dan?
>>>
>>> I had to look a couple of times to make certain that it was you
posting 
>>> this. It seems somewhat out of character. Goodness, what a grump!
>>
>> Why?  That I care that what p***** for "church" these days is more of a

>> media-fest, feel good, humanocentric approach to "god" than anything 
>> resembling the Gospel?
>>
>> The American Religion isn't the Gospel of Christ, it's the Gospel of
Man. 
>> We've discussed it to death here, you might want to go to Google
groups, 
>> look up "American Religion" and read our critiques of it.
>>
>> Anyway, Happy Ostara!
>>
>> Dan
>
> I think that, in many of the events you give us, there is a great deal 
> more about the Savior and the Atonement than you give them credit for,
is 
> all I'm saying.

Sorry to butt in here, but Dan truly provided a community service.  LOL!

Lets noodle this one out.   If you are a regular member of a true thriving

church, do you need any of these ads?

Even if you just moved into town, and are in need of a "Bounce House",
free 
breakfast and live rock-n-roll by some 2nd rate amateurs, don't you think 
that you would have already scouted this sort of "ministry" out earlier 
rather than on the most attended day  of the year?

Visitors are and should be consumers,  yet I'm struggling with how my tax 
deductable church donation is somehow furthering the Kingdom by awarding a

once-a-year attendee with a Nintendo Wii  just for showing up.   Are they 
there to win a game console so that they can go home and indulge in 24/7 
first person shoot-em-ups and play Grand Theft Auto courtesy of Woodland 
Hills Church?   Or are they there to get saved?   I'm 100% confident it is

the former, and also strongly confident that if by some accident they did 
come to get saved, there wouldn't be much reason to given the din of the 
screaming guitars and raging drum solos for Jesus.   I just can't see St 
Paul doing his best Alice Cooper routine before a screaming throng of
Romans 
in the Colliseum so that some might be saved, yet that is exactly what 
church organizers are betting on.

If Texas is the buckle of the Bible Belt, the city of Austin would be one
of 
the sizing holes in the belt because I swear, judging by the crowds last 
night, Lot must be my next door neighbor.  (OK, I'm taking a bit of
literary 
license).   There wasn't a "church" in the entire area (save the small OPC
I 
attend) that didn't have some sort of  fertility symbol rich children's 
event going on  (aka 'Ishtar egg hunt', chicken eggs courtesy of a
prolific 
bunny named Peter).  As for me, I'm highly offended.  As Dan points out, 
here is a church that instead of advertising the foundational elements of 
the Christian faith on the Passover week, chooses to spend its marketing
and 
advertising budget on advancing ancient Babylonian fertility rites for the

neighborhood children.  (I'm sure the government schools cover the 
obligatory temple prostitute rites for us)

Can anyone explain to me how gathering up colored plastic eggs hidden in
the 
parking lot and the landscaping of the local "church" is supposed to lead 
anyone to Christ?   Did I miss something in my EE cl*****?

I also am intrigued by the "blended wor****p" offered at 1st Presby of 
Grenada Hills.  Who thought that this was a great idea?  Traditionally the

Big Box Hallelujah House have a CCM service and a "traditional" service 
ostensibly because one group can't stand the other's choice in wor****p. 
So 
when they promise to "blend" the services, are they trying to piss
everyone 
off?   I'm sure when the house band puts the amps in overdrive this might
be 
the first time in a long time that granny can hear the music without a 
hearing aid - and ***** about it being "too loud". Unfortunately they
might 
also prove that there is indeed the Brown Note.  Hopefully she is wearing
an 
adult diaper when this takes place.

I like the CP Lutheran's "Unique Multi-Media Wor****p Service".   Sort of 
like experiencing Woodstock on a big screen TV without the mud and rain.

So I went to www.theshepherd.org to see this spectacle of the glowing
tomb. 
Honestly I don't know what possessed the artist to make a bright light
****ne 
from an EMPTY tomb,  I sort of expect to see some willowy green alien 
from 
the "Invasion From Mars" movie slowly emerging from this glowing tomb,
smoke 
billowing out as a creepy frame, the alien slowly raising his hand in a 
Vulcan greeting...background music making a slow crescendo before Alfie
the 
dog breaks free and jumps up on the alien, the alien then shooting rays
from 
its eyes va****izing the poor sheep dog.

Actually, if they had that as a website animation, I would have gone 
regardles if there was a FREE Continental breakfast.

Furthermore, I fail to see why anyone wants to romanticize the crucifixion

by backlighting the cross, or a tomb.   It was a messy, bloody, horrible 
event that was detailed by the disciples by the long description "...and
he 
was crucified."  Even they didn't want to revel in the act of His death.  
I 
look at these pictures and wonder if some dope is going to think that this

is beautiful and they would contact a landscape designer to rig up the
same 
backdrop in their own yard.   "Honey, its a beautiful sunset, lets take
that 
bottle of wine, and go out and spend a romantic evening under the torture 
device."  It looked so attractive and inviting in the church brochure.

[ Personally I am convinced that it wasn't St Helena's cross, but an olive

tree where Christ and the two thieves were crucified.]

I might want to add.   You can always tell a healthy church when the
parking 
lot is about the same level on Resurrection Sunday as it is on anyother 
non-summer Sunday.   When they are parking in the grass and need to bring
in 
shuttles, you are guaranteed that it would have been better to be on the 
golf course than inside.

I hope that my rant here has made Dan's community service appear to come 
from a giddy optimist in comparison.
 




 10 Posts in Topic:
American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2008
"Daniel S. Vieira&qu  2008-03-22 08:33:20 
Re: American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2
"Diana" <dia  2008-03-23 03:45:36 
Re: American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2
"Daniel S. Vieira&qu  2008-03-23 08:48:19 
Re: American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2
"Diana" <dia  2008-03-23 19:34:10 
Re: American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2
"Reuben Hick" &  2008-03-23 19:55:38 
Re: American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2
"Diana" <dia  2008-03-24 14:49:46 
Re: American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2
"Justin Thyme"   2008-03-24 11:20:40 
Re: American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2
"Reuben Hick" &  2008-03-25 22:30:57 
Re: American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2
"Diana" <dia  2008-03-26 14:05:49 
Re: American Religion Easter "Events" in the Los Angeles Area, 2
"Reuben Hick" &  2008-03-26 20:43:27 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
tan13V112 Fri Jul 18 11:29:16 CDT 2008.