Raymond wrote:
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> On May 16, 5:32=A0am, bob young <alaspect...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Raymond wrote:
> >
> > > On May 15, 6:03 am, bob young <alaspect...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > Carl wrote:
> >
> > > > > Eph 2:4-9
> > > > > 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mer=
cy, 5 made us
> > > > > alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions - it=
is by grace
> > > > > you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and sea=
ted us with
> > > > > him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in =
the coming
> > > > > ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expres=
sed in his
> > > > > kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have b=
een saved,
> > > > > through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of=
God- 9 not
> > > > > by works, so that no one can boast.
> >
> > > > Eight lines of gratuitous, saccharine, meaningless jargon.
> >
> > > So you had to add your own line of meaningless jargon. =A0Dah! =A0 =
Kind of
> > > stupid if anyone reads your remarks.
> >
> > OK......... Prove your god exists. =A0Thanks
> =
> You're here and your ways and words prove there is a God
Primitive nonsense. Ask any Hindu and you will get a
differenty story about a different god. Ask a Taoist and
yet another story.
and the Bible
> is truth, since it points out your life and what you do and are
> doing.
The bible is primitive mythology, full of contradictions and absurdities.=
The universe revolves around the earth.
Stars are pinpricks in the heavens.
The world is flat (and on pillars)
Bats are a kind of bird.
Rabbits chew their cud.
There is enough water to flood the entire planet
Women were created from a man's rib
Rainbows are a promise from God
Genesis 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
Genesis 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.
Genesis 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
Genesis 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.
Genesis 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
Genesis 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.
Then I do not believe in "god" since that is a term used in
> the bible for false gods and idols and such. A Christian do not
> believe in god they believe in GOD ALMIGHTY, JESUS CHRIST.
> =
> I believe in God now as I was like you and made the same statement at
> that time. =
[smile] I was a 'follower for about 24 years from the
cradle, even confirmed. At 24 went overseas and saw how
others lived, that, for me was the beginning of atheism and
it has never left me. =
Then after a night of being drunk and sick as a dog,
> someone came and invited me to church. I went that Sunday, and to
> make it this short, I laughed at there being a God, till the Pastor
> after his message made a call for them that were in sin and did not
> believe God to come and accept Jesus. I was thinking how silly it
> was, and at that moment that pastor answered me, and every thing I
> could think why there as no need to accept Jesus, he replied to
> without even looking at me. He then made the statement if one would
> step out and come to altar the Spirit of God would meet them. I took
> a step and at that moment, I could feel the Spirit of God come down
> all over me and I had a feeling, I never had before and when I was
> prayed for had peace and found all was peaceful and nice. I was in
> the military at that time and a ex-gang leader, I knew I was going to
> hell if there was one, and there wasn't any, there should of been one
> as I was already living in what you may call Hell here.
> =
> I am an example of the fact what the Bible says God said is truth and
> only God could change my life in such a way.
NOBODY has ever heard a god say ANYTHING All we hear are
claims by other humans. =
Another reason why many thinking people are atheists.
I have also prayed that
> Jesus would heal the sick and seen the blind receive their sight,
> broken bones healed and xrays to prove it, and so much more. =
What a joke. Have you watched your recent newsreels of
children in China buried under rubble after the eathquake? =
You claim god created heaven and earth. The first has no
verifiable location, the second is so unstable only a fool
would bleeive a loving god created it. =
Have you wondered why the son of a loving god, the claimed
Jesus, cured 'A' leper? Why not cure all the lepers? The
answer is easy. Had the myth writer so claimed he knew it
would only be a matter of time before a leper came walking
over the top of the nearest hill to trash his silly yarn, so
he played safe and had his hero cure one leper. THAT my
friend is atheistic logic which is it the opposite end of
the scale to 'faith'
I sure
> you would be like I was and till God does touch you, you will deny
> what you have no idea about. It is the Spirit of God and the
> unbeliever may call such a spook or a ghost or something else, maybe a
> chill no way of proving there is no God, but because it seems you did
> not experience God there is none. Be like me saying there is no
> death, as I personally never died yet. Or that the Russia does not
> exist, since I never been there or that the USSR was just someones
> false remarks there never was such a place. I never been there and If
> I refuse to accept what people say that were there, is the same kind
> of silly statement you just wanted in this post. Thanks
> =
> > > > Yes they even had jargon back in Biblical times
> >
> > > Thank God you were not there then, as your jargon is such a waste o=
f
> > > time to write or read.
> >
> > See above
> =
> That is what you should do look above.
Yes look skywards where a good many televangelists look when
they get on camera. Forgetting of course that is purely
habit from the days when early simple folks thought god was
'just a above the clouds'. =
We now know 'He' is not up there don't we, since we fly
commercial jets 'up thar' ?!
So where is 'He'............ NOW?
bob
Humanist Brit.
> =
> Raymond
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