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similar ideas by real people

by monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Autymn D. C. wrote:

> On May 8, 10:10 pm, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> arah wrote:
>> > Sorry, that is not a myth, that was the true statement by Esau or
>> > Jesus
>>
>> Thanks, actually that is my point.
>>
>> Some atheists here are adamant that
>> Christianity is nothing but borrowed myths.
>> So, I am asking them to find the myth
>> where we are told to love even our enemies.
>> They couldn't, so far.
> The Historical Jesus in Context
> http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8265.html
> 
>>Both the Jesus of the Gospels and the Rabbis of Mishnah and Talmud
follow
>>the approach of what Basser terms “literal unacceptable: stretch
apt”;
>>this reshaping of a verse’s words or structure typically served to
>>alleviate any hard****p created by following the more literal sense.
>>Exemplifying this process in the Gospels are the “Antitheses” of
Matthew 5
>>that follow the formulaic structure, “You have heard that it was said
. .
>>. But I tell you. . . .” While the interpretation of Matthew 5:44,
“But I
>>tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,” is
>>novel (although Proverbs does insist “Do not rejoice when your enemies
>>fall” [24:17] and “If your enemies are hungry, give them bread to
eat; if
>>they are thirsty, give them water to drink” [25:21]), the means by
which
>>the Gospel derives this interpretation are not: as Basser observes, the
>>word “neighbor” can be stretched to include “enemy” because the
terms in
>>Hebrew share the same consonants; only the pronunciation differs. To
this
>>we also might add that Epictetus voiced a similar point: “[The Cynic]
must
>>be flogged like an ass, and while he is being flogged he must love the
man
>>who flogs him, as though he were the father or brother of them all”
>>(Discourses 3).<


I see similar ideas by real people
but no myths.


-- 
monkfish   * alt.atheism is removed from the header because trying to
prove
the existence of God is prohibited by their undebatable policy.
** Atheists have blind faith in their ability to know of all actual or
possible modes of existence. Such hubris cannot be good for science.
 




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arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 20:49:22 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-07 06:45:59 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.  2008-05-07 07:09:32 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-07 18:15:21 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.  2008-05-07 16:48:27 
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Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-07 09:39:36 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.  2008-05-07 11:34:39 
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monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-07 17:36:17 
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arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 18:33:41 
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arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 18:57:00 
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Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-08 14:11:55 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.  2008-05-08 16:17:00 
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"SongBookz" <  2008-05-08 22:29:20 
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arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 20:09:18 
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arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:05:49 
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monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 01:10:48 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-09 00:44:17 
need to love our enemies
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 11:03:04 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:21:05 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.  2008-05-09 03:33:16 
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Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:30:26 
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Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:40:31 
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Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:30:48 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.  2008-05-09 10:34:21 
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Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:45:47 
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Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 07:08:31 
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"SongBookz" <  2008-05-09 11:45:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:34:08 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:43:55 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:54:56 
similar ideas by real people
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 11:41:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 08:16:42 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 13:22:32 
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Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 13:32:19 
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"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-10 02:47:16 
Re: similar ideas by real people
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-10 03:08:30 
Re: similar ideas by real people
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-10 16:45:01 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-10 10:34:55 

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