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Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS

by "Autymn D. C." <lysdexia@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 07:54 AM

On May 8, 10:10=A0pm, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> arah wrote:
> > Sorry, that is not a myth, that was the true statement by Esau or
> > Jesus
>
> Thanks, actually that is my point.
>
> Some atheists here are adamant that
> Christianity is nothing but borrowed myths.
> So, I am asking them to find the myth
> where we are told to love even our enemies.
> They couldn't, so far.
The Historical Jesus in Context
http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8265.html

>Both the Jesus of the Gospels and the Rabbis of Mishnah and Talmud follow
t=
he approach of what Basser terms =93literal unacceptable: stretch apt=94;
th=
is reshaping of a verse=92s words or structure typically served to
alleviate=
 any hard****p created by following the more literal sense. Exemplifying
this=
 process in the Gospels are the =93Antitheses=94 of Matthew 5 that follow
th=
e formulaic structure, =93You have heard that it was said . . . But I tell
y=
ou. . . .=94 While the interpretation of Matthew 5:44, =93But I tell you,
lo=
ve your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,=94 is novel
(although =
Proverbs does insist =93Do not rejoice when your enemies fall=94 [24:17]
and=
 =93If your enemies are hungry, give them bread to eat; if they are
thirsty,=
 give them water to drink=94 [25:21]), the means by which the Gospel
derives=
 this interpretation are not: as Basser observes, the word =93neighbor=94
ca=
n be stretched to include =93enemy=94 because the terms in Hebrew share
the =
same consonants; only the pronunciation differs. To this we also might add
t=
hat Epictetus voiced a similar point: =93[The Cynic] must be flogged like
an=
 ass, and while he is being flogged he must love the man who flogs him, as
t=
hough he were the father or brother of them all=94 (Discourses 3).<

> monkfish =A0 * alt.atheism is removed from the header because trying to
pr=
ove
> the existence of God is prohibited by their undebatable policy.

Huh?  Failing to and spamming, more lik.

> ** Atheists have blind faith in their ability to know of all actual or
> possible modes of existence. Such hubris cannot be good for science.

It's not faith; it's logic and maths.  There are no married bachelors.

-Aut
 




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CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 20:49:22 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-07 06:45:59 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-07 07:09:32 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-07 18:15:21 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-07 16:48:27 
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Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-07 09:39:36 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-07 11:34:39 
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monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-07 17:36:17 
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arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 18:33:41 
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arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 18:57:00 
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Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-08 14:11:55 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-08 16:17:00 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-08 22:29:20 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 20:09:18 
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arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:05:49 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 01:10:48 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-09 00:44:17 
need to love our enemies
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 11:03:04 
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Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:21:05 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-09 03:33:16 
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Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:30:26 
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Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:40:31 
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Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:30:48 
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2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-09 10:34:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:45:47 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 07:08:31 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-09 11:45:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:34:08 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:43:55 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:54:56 
similar ideas by real people
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 11:41:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 08:16:42 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 13:22:32 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 13:32:19 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-10 02:47:16 
Re: similar ideas by real people
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-10 03:08:30 
Re: similar ideas by real people
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-10 16:45:01 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-10 10:34:55 

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