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Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS

by "SongBookz" <songbookz@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 10:29 PM

"Raymond" <rwknapp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:f46294cc-284b-4647-96c9-ff42cd245f24@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 May 8, 2:34 am, 2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> In article
> <214370e4-757e-492f-b956-682b502da...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Raymond
>
> > <rwkn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > On May 7, 10:09=A0am, 2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > In article <ai5324t7sd1m4e6dge5uktll0btme38...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, duke
>
> > > <duckgumb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 6 May 2008 20:49:22 -0700 (PDT), arah <arah1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

> > > > wrote=
> > :
>
> > > > >Christianity is an ancient Pagan religion.
>
> > > > You know that nobody in his right mind would believe you, don't
you.
>
> > > =95 =A0Good point Duke. =A0However, Christianity is somewhat based
on 
> > > a
> > > sacrifice-based pagan Sun-God religion named Mithraism which was 
> > > popular
> > > in Rome over a century before the birth of Jesus of Nazareth. 
> > > =A0Examples:=
>
> > > December 25, the Winter solstice was changed to the Christian God's
> > > birthday from Mithra's birthday. =A0Even though Saturday was the 
> > > Jewish
> > > sabbath - and Jesus was Jewish, Christianity adopted the Sun God 
> > > Mithra's
> > > Sabbath of Sunday. Additionally, =A0Mithra had multiple
personalities 
> > > as d=
> > id
> > > the Christian God - while the Jewish supreme being thankfully had
only 
> > > one=
>
> > > personality.
>
> > Your reply is total idiocies. I sure there were many thousands of
> > gods people followed many had sacrifice blood based and so on.
>
> ** agreed
>
> >Which
> > has nothing to do with Jesus or a pagan Sun-God play of words it is
> > SON of GOD not SUN.
>
> ** Mithra was the Persian sun God.
>
> >Jesus came to set such silly teachings like
> > yours to rest and make the way for mankind to find the real GOD! Dec
> > 25, was not and could not be the birthday of Jesus
>
> ** Agreed
>
> > it was only a day
> > that was picked out of 360 days, no matter what day one picked people
> > like you would find some reason to mock it.
>
> ** Picking the birthday of the sun God Mithra was not a good choice
since
> Jesus of Nazareth was likely born in October.

If you lived at that time it was the best day to pick, as it was
really three days and the people were drunk that did worship Mithra
and so no one cared what Christians were doing as they were to far
gone.   Remember followers of Jesus were no permited to worship and
this would be the best time to do that.  Then just because some other
god or thing was done by some other group does not mean they are doing
the same.  I can go to church at the same time a group are in a bar
getting drunk, everyone knows church and bar have nothing to do with
each othere.  It really does not matter what month Jesus was born,
what does matter is he was born.  One day is just as good as any
othere.

By the time they decided to celebrate Christ's Mass to discourage people 
from celebrating the "birthday of the sun," Christians were not being 
persecuted but had become the state religion.  Later pagan customs were 
incorporated into it (trees, yule log, etc.)  Even in America, the
Puritans 
didn't celebrate Christmas and hardly anyone did in America for a long
time.

Christianity has borrowed lots of pagan symbols over the centuries.  The 
little"t" cross which was the "Mystic Tau" a symbol of Tammuz and can be 
traced back centuries before that.  Steeples adapted from the Egyptian 
Obelisk which was part of sun worship.  The Trinity - practically all
pagan 
deities were part of a trinity.  and so on...

>
> >Christianity never
> > adopted any God Mithra's or what ever name one wants to use.
>
> ** History says they did.

No it does not!  You will not find in any true Christian church or
history any word of worship of Mithra's as their God.

Of course not, but in many cases, Christians have just changed Mithra's
name 
to Jesus.

>
> >You seem
> > to forget it was God that made all days and pagans just used them. So
> > when a Christian takes back the day, you all try to make it sound like
> > the pagan owned it. Sorry that ideal does not hold water. God made
> > the days long before any pagan lived. You also don't seem to know
> > much about true history or the teachings of the Jew that is real and
> > theirs not some book of pagan teachings that you seem to follow or
> > want others to believe which are just lies and falsehoods.
>
> ** paganization of Christianity did not come until 3-centuries after the
> curcifixtion.

I can agree with some of that, only Paul did say even in his day that
false teachers were already preaching falsehoods.

If you have access to Vine's Expository Dictionary, there's a good article

on this under "Cross."

Terrell




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CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 20:49:22 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-07 06:45:59 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-07 07:09:32 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-07 18:15:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-07 16:48:27 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-07 09:39:36 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-07 11:34:39 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-07 17:36:17 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 18:33:41 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 18:57:00 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-08 14:11:55 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-08 16:17:00 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-08 22:29:20 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 20:09:18 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:05:49 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 01:10:48 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-09 00:44:17 
need to love our enemies
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 11:03:04 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:21:05 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-09 03:33:16 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:30:26 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:40:31 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:30:48 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-09 10:34:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:45:47 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 07:08:31 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-09 11:45:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:34:08 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:43:55 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:54:56 
similar ideas by real people
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 11:41:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 08:16:42 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 13:22:32 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 13:32:19 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-10 02:47:16 
Re: similar ideas by real people
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-10 03:08:30 
Re: similar ideas by real people
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-10 16:45:01 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-10 10:34:55 

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