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Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS

by arah <arah1958@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 08:09 PM

My dear Raymond,

I need your view on the following statement.

Deuteronomy

 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. [a] 5 Love the
LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all
your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be
upon your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them
when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie
down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind
them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses
and on your gates.

 10 When the LORD your God brings you into the land he swore to your
fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give you=97a land with large,
flouri****ng cities you did not build, 11 houses filled with all kinds
of good things you did not provide, wells you did not dig, and
vineyards and olive groves you did not plant=97then when you eat and are
satisfied, 12 be careful that you do not forget the LORD, who brought
you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

 13 Fear the LORD your God, serve him only and take your oaths in his
name. 14 Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you;
15 for the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his
anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of
the land. 16 Do not test the LORD your God as you did at Massah. 17 Be
sure to keep the commands of the LORD your God and the stipulations
and decrees he has given you. 18 Do what is right and good in the
LORD's sight, so that it may go well with you and you may go in and
take over the good land that the LORD promised on oath to your
forefathers, 19 thrusting out all your enemies before you,

Raymond, why you pray and serve to a human name Jesus as your God?


On May 9, 5:11 am, Raymond <rwkn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 8, 2:34 am, 2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <214370e4-757e-492f-b956-682b502da...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Raymo=
nd
>
> > > <rwkn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > On May 7, 10:09=3DA0am, 2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > In article <ai5324t7sd1m4e6dge5uktll0btme38...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, duke
>
> > > > <duckgumb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 6 May 2008 20:49:22 -0700 (PDT), arah
<arah1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>=
 wrote=3D
> > > :
>
> > > > > >Christianity is an ancient Pagan religion.
>
> > > > > You know that nobody in his right mind would believe you, don't
yo=
u.
>
> > > > =3D95 =3DA0Good point Duke. =3DA0However, Christianity is somewhat
b=
ased on a
> > > > sacrifice-based pagan Sun-God religion named Mithraism which was
pop=
ular
> > > > in Rome over a century before the birth of Jesus of Nazareth.
=3DA0E=
xamples:=3D
>
> > > > December 25, the Winter solstice was changed to the Christian
God's
> > > > birthday from Mithra's birthday. =3DA0Even though Saturday was the
J=
ewish
> > > > sabbath - and Jesus was Jewish, Christianity adopted the Sun God
Mit=
hra's
> > > > Sabbath of Sunday. Additionally, =3DA0Mithra had multiple
personalit=
ies as d=3D
> > > id
> > > > the Christian God - while the Jewish supreme being thankfully had
on=
ly one=3D
>
> > > > personality.
>
> > > Your reply is total idiocies.  I sure there were many thousands of
> > > gods people followed many had sacrifice blood based and so on.
>
> > **  agreed
>
> > >Which
> > > has nothing to do with Jesus or a pagan Sun-God play of words it is
> > > SON of GOD not SUN.
>
> > **  Mithra was the Persian sun God.
>
> > >Jesus came to set such silly teachings like
> > > yours to rest and make the way for mankind to find the real GOD! 
Dec
> > > 25, was not and could not be the birthday of Jesus
>
> > **  Agreed
>
> > > it was only a day
> > > that was picked out of 360 days, no matter what day one picked
people
> > > like you would find some reason to mock it.
>
> > **  Picking the birthday of the sun God Mithra was not a good choice
sin=
ce
> > Jesus of Nazareth was likely born in October.
>
> If you lived at that time it was the best day to pick, as it was
> really three days and the people were drunk that did wor****p Mithra
> and so no one cared what Christians were doing as they were to far
> gone.   Remember followers of Jesus were no permited to wor****p and
> this would be the best time to do that.  Then just because some other
> god or thing was done by some other group does not mean they are doing
> the same.  I can go to church at the same time a group are in a bar
> getting drunk, everyone knows church and bar have nothing to do with
> each othere.  It really does not matter what month Jesus was born,
> what does matter is he was born.  One day is just as good as any
> othere.
>
>
>
> > >Christianity never
> > > adopted any God Mithra's or what ever name one wants to use.
>
> > **  History says they did.
>
> No it does not!  You will not find in any true Christian church or
> history any word of wor****p of Mithra's as their God.
>
>
>
> > >You seem
> > > to forget it was God that made all days and pagans just used them. 
So=

> > > when a Christian takes back the day, you all try to make it sound
like=

> > > the pagan owned it.  Sorry that ideal does not hold water.  God made
> > > the days long before any pagan lived.  You also don't seem to know
> > > much about true history or the teachings of the Jew that is real and
> > > theirs not some book of pagan teachings that you seem to follow or
> > > want others to believe which are just lies and falsehoods.
>
> > **  paganization of Christianity did not come until 3-centuries after
th=
e
> > curcifixtion.
>
> I can agree with some of that, only Paul did say even in his day that
> false teachers were already preaching falsehoods.
>
>
>
> > cheers Raymond
>
> Cheers to you also.
>
> Raymond
>
>
>
> > --
> > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org-Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
 




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CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 20:49:22 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-07 06:45:59 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-07 07:09:32 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-07 18:15:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-07 16:48:27 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-07 09:39:36 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-07 11:34:39 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-07 17:36:17 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 18:33:41 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 18:57:00 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-08 14:11:55 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-08 16:17:00 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-08 22:29:20 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 20:09:18 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:05:49 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 01:10:48 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-09 00:44:17 
need to love our enemies
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 11:03:04 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:21:05 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-09 03:33:16 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:30:26 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Tim <tschnautz@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 21:40:31 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:30:48 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (•R.  2008-05-09 10:34:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:45:47 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 07:08:31 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-09 11:45:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:34:08 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:43:55 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 07:54:56 
similar ideas by real people
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-09 11:41:21 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-09 08:16:42 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 13:22:32 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-09 13:32:19 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-10 02:47:16 
Re: similar ideas by real people
"Autymn D. C."   2008-05-10 03:08:30 
Re: similar ideas by real people
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-10 16:45:01 
Re: CHRISTIANITY IS AN ANCIENT PAGAN RELIGION NOT FROM JESUS
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-10 10:34:55 

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