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Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY

by "John Fraser" <jfraser@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 07:57 AM

Good morning Arah;

"arah" <arah1958@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:4251b7bb-38c8-4aae-8214-4245688af9c2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Alt wrote:
>
> I agree. Jesus never once used the word "trinity", but I still
> maintain
> that He preached it.
>
> Alt have you forgotten what Jesus warned everyone!!!!
>
> Mark 7:6-13 (New International Version)
>
> 6He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you
> hypocrites; as it is written:
>   " 'These people honor me with their lips,
>      but their hearts are far from me.
> 7They wor****p me in vain;
>      their teachings are but rules taught by men.'[a] 8You have let
> go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of
> men."
>
> 9And he said to them: "You have a fine way of setting aside the
> commands of God in order to observe[b] your own traditions! 10For
> Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother,'[c] and, 'Anyone who
> curses his father or mother must be put to death.'[d] 11But you say
> that if a man says to his father or mother: 'Whatever help you might
> otherwise have received from me is Corban' (that is, a gift devoted to
> God), 12then you no longer let him do anything for his father or
> mother. 13Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you
> have handed down. And you do many things like that."
>
> Good luck

    Setting aside the commands of God is exactly what Muhammad did.  Yet, 
you say that it's OK for him.  Worse, you use Scripture which you claim is

false as an authority to accuse others.  Jesus would call such a person a 
hypocrite.

Cheers,
John
>
>
> On May 8, 12:56 am, alt <spamt...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 May 2008 05:12:53 -0700, Raymond wrote:
>> > On May 7, 6:51 am, ARAH <arah1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> Alt wrote:
>>
>> >> Again, we do not believe in three gods. We believe in one holy God 
>> >> that
>> >> is infinite that created us as finite beings, but loves us so much
He
>> >> came down in the person of the Son to experience our lives as we do 
>> >> and
>> >> to provide a new convenant between Him and us.
>>
>> >> Prove to me that Jesus ever mentioned the above statement. Why get
>> >> confuse with the teaching of John and Paul?
>>
>> > That is not an argument prove to me Jesus ever mentioned Mohammad or 
>> > the
>> > name of God would be Allah, why confuse yourself with the Koran? Paul
>> > and John were minsters that were appointed by God and the Word of God
>> > came by them, prove Mohammad was ever even known by God or God ever
>> > pointed to your false religion or false prophets?    Your always 
>> > wanting
>> > proof but give nothing to prove you have anything to disprove the
Bible
>> > and when your shown wrong and in falsehoods, you dare want to dismiss
>> > the appointed ministers of God and the Holy Bible.
>>
>> >> > Now, the first and foremost point is that Jesus never preached the
>> >> > so- called holy Trinity.
>>
>> >> Sure He did.
>>
>> > So called does not mean Jesus had to preach such, it is SO CALLED not

>> > by
>> > Him but by people today and others.
>>
>> I agree. Jesus never once used the word "trinity", but I still maintain
>> that He preached it.
>>
>>
>>
>> >> First, Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" in John 10:30. The
Jews
>> >> even took up stones to stone him and Jesus asked them in v32 why
they
>> >> want to stone him. They explicitely told him that they wanted to
stone
>> >> him for blasphemy; for making himself God. So, Jesus definitely knew
>> >> what
>> >> he was saying. There is no "oh wow. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it like
>> >> that" after that. He continued with his position that he is God.
>>
>> > NO ONE STONED JESUS and He was God in the body of Christ, as they
could
>> > not touch Him, He even walked in with them and they could not stone
or
>> > touch Him, which also proved to many He was God in the flesh.
>>
>> And this too is an excellent point. Jesus just walked away. The jews
were
>> unable to stone Him. Either he was a really slick talker or He was
>> protected. I vote for the latter.
>
 




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THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 02:14:22 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-02 04:45:01 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-02 05:39:36 
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denisar <ebg@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-02 20:26:14 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-02 11:01:24 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-03 01:55:02 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-03 09:02:12 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
denisar <ebg@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 20:53:01 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-03 09:01:35 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-03 01:16:09 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-03 09:02:37 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-02 10:00:29 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-03 01:56:01 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-03 11:14:10 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ummiroses@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-02 06:28:35 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-02 11:04:54 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
NOSPAM <nospam@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 13:33:34 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 04:23:44 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 04:31:22 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-03 11:06:34 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-03 02:06:03 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
biblestudy@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-03 19:08:33 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
biblestudy@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-03 19:56:58 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 03:51:15 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-07 05:12:53 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 11:27:55 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 11:30:58 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 11:53:54 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 11:56:03 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-08 00:05:02 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-08 00:10:02 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 03:20:44 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-08 07:57:35 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 07:35:25 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-08 15:25:50 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 07:48:19 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 20:14:07 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-08 22:37:13 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-09 11:10:34 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-09 17:05:13 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-10 00:34:02 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-10 00:35:02 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 23:39:20 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-11 01:15:04 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 07:16:00 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 07:37:31 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-12 00:28:06 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 07:45:54 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-12 00:18:45 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-11 23:49:29 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-11 23:51:09 

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