Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY

On Wed, 07 May 2008 05:12:53 -0700, Raymond wrote:

> On May 7, 6:51 am, ARAH <arah1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Alt wrote:
>>
>> Again, we do not believe in three gods. We believe in one holy God that
>> is infinite that created us as finite beings, but loves us so much He
>> came down in the person of the Son to experience our lives as we do and
>> to provide a new convenant between Him and us.
>>
>> Prove to me that Jesus ever mentioned the above statement. Why get
>> confuse with the teaching of John and Paul?
> 
> That is not an argument prove to me Jesus ever mentioned Mohammad or the
> name of God would be Allah, why confuse yourself with the Koran? Paul
> and John were minsters that were appointed by God and the Word of God
> came by them, prove Mohammad was ever even known by God or God ever
> pointed to your false religion or false prophets?    Your always wanting
> proof but give nothing to prove you have anything to disprove the Bible
> and when your shown wrong and in falsehoods, you dare want to dismiss
> the appointed ministers of God and the Holy Bible.
> 
> 
>> > Now, the first and foremost point is that Jesus never preached the
>> > so- called holy Trinity.
>>
>> Sure He did.
> 
> So called does not mean Jesus had to preach such, it is SO CALLED not by
> Him but by people today and others.

I agree. Jesus never once used the word "trinity", but I still maintain 
that He preached it.

> 
> 
>> First, Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" in John 10:30. The Jews
>> even took up stones to stone him and Jesus asked them in v32 why they
>> want to stone him. They explicitely told him that they wanted to stone
>> him for blasphemy; for making himself God. So, Jesus definitely knew
>> what
>> he was saying. There is no "oh wow. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it like
>> that" after that. He continued with his position that he is God.
> 
> NO ONE STONED JESUS and He was God in the body of Christ, as they could
> not touch Him, He even walked in with them and they could not stone or
> touch Him, which also proved to many He was God in the flesh.

And this too is an excellent point. Jesus just walked away. The jews were 
unable to stone Him. Either he was a really slick talker or He was 
protected. I vote for the latter.