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Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY

by Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 05:12 AM

On May 7, 6:51=A0am, ARAH <arah1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Alt wrote:
>
> Again, we do not believe in three gods. We believe in one holy God
> that
> is infinite that created us as finite beings, but loves us so much He
> came down in the person of the Son to experience our lives as we do
> and
> to provide a new convenant between Him and us.
>
> Prove to me that Jesus ever mentioned the above statement. Why get
> confuse with the teaching of John and Paul?

That is not an argument prove to me Jesus ever mentioned Mohammad or
the name of God would be Allah, why confuse yourself with the Koran?
Paul and John were minsters that were appointed by God and the Word of
God came by them, prove Mohammad was ever even known by God or God
ever pointed to your false religion or false prophets?    Your always
wanting proof but give nothing to prove you have anything to disprove
the Bible and when your shown wrong and in falsehoods, you dare want
to dismiss the appointed ministers of God and the Holy Bible.

>
> > Now, the first and foremost point is that Jesus never preached the so-
> > called holy Trinity.
>
> Sure He did.

So called does not mean Jesus had to preach such, it is SO CALLED not
by Him but by people today and others.

>
> First, Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" in John 10:30. The Jews
> even took up stones to stone him and Jesus asked them in v32 why they
> want to stone him. They explicitely told him that they wanted to stone
> him for blasphemy; for making himself God. So, Jesus definitely knew
> what
> he was saying. There is no "oh wow. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it like
> that" after that. He continued with his position that he is God.

NO ONE STONED JESUS and He was God in the body of Christ, as they
could not touch Him, He even walked in with them and they could not
stone or touch Him, which also proved to many He was God in the flesh.

>
> Not necessary one person because the Father is not a person like Jesus
> but it is about One VISION and One MISSION. What is the Vision? To
> save the generation of Israel from being burned in the hell fire.
>
> The Prove
>
> =A0 =A0 Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following
> instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the
> Samaritans. Mat 10:6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.
>
> =A0 =A0 (Mat 15:24 NIV) He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep
of=

> Israel."
>
> (Mat 15:22-28 NIV) A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him,
> crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is
> suffering terribly from demon-possession." {23} Jesus did not answer a
> word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for
> she keeps crying out after us." {24} He answered, "I was sent only to
> the lost sheep of Israel." {25} The woman came and knelt before him.
> "Lord, help me!" she said. {26} He replied, "It is not right to take
> the children's bread and toss it to their dogs." {27} "Yes, Lord," she
> said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters'
> table." {28} Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your
> request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
>
> Why Jesus is not will to help the Canaanite women? If Jesus is God in
> human form what kind of unfair god is that?

HE DID HELP HER!  Only she was not a Jew, which proves He is God and
does love all that come and ASK Him for help.  Her faith was greater
then the Jews that He did come to save.  Be like a Muslims accepting
Jesus as LORD and following Him.  Islam would say they have no right
and that is false and so on, only when God does save it is GOD not man
that would help them.  I sure a follower of Islam would not help,
heal, but kill and dishonor any follower of Mohammad that dismissed
the Koran and followed the Jesus as seen in the Holy Bible.  It seems
like we have a one way message here that tries to hide the WHOLE
TRUTH, with parts only and not the whole story.

The rest is not worth the time to argue as the main points have been
misrepresented and are not fully from the Word of God, to look into
dirt gets one unclean.

Raymond
 




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THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 02:14:22 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-02 04:45:01 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-02 05:39:36 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
denisar <ebg@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-02 20:26:14 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-02 11:01:24 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-03 01:55:02 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-03 09:02:12 
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denisar <ebg@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 20:53:01 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-03 09:01:35 
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bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-03 01:16:09 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-03 09:02:37 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-02 10:00:29 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-03 01:56:01 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-03 11:14:10 
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ummiroses@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-02 06:28:35 
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"John Fraser" &  2008-05-02 11:04:54 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
NOSPAM <nospam@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 13:33:34 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 04:23:44 
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alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 04:31:22 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-03 11:06:34 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-03 02:06:03 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
biblestudy@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-03 19:08:33 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
biblestudy@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-03 19:56:58 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 03:51:15 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAI  2008-05-07 05:12:53 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 11:27:55 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 11:30:58 
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alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 11:53:54 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 11:56:03 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-08 00:05:02 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-08 00:10:02 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 03:20:44 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-08 07:57:35 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
arah <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 07:35:25 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-08 15:25:50 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 07:48:19 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 20:14:07 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"SongBookz" <  2008-05-08 22:37:13 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-09 11:10:34 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-09 17:05:13 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-10 00:34:02 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
bob young <alaspectrum  2008-05-10 00:35:02 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 23:39:20 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-11 01:15:04 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 07:16:00 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 07:37:31 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-12 00:28:06 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
ARAH <arah1958@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 07:45:54 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
"John Fraser" &  2008-05-12 00:18:45 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-11 23:49:29 
Re: THERE IS NO HOLY TRINITY
alt <spamtrap@[EMAIL P  2008-05-11 23:51:09 

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