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Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine

by "Lars Wilson" <siaxares@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 03:50 AM

"Zadok" <nobler@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> But I guess in the news recap of the action, the Roman commentator,
threw 
> in
> some
> deatails to Luke only.
>
I don't think you understand how detailed the gospels are or how they HIDE

things.   Secrets.  You have to harmonize them.

Case in point the three different times Mary Magdalene came to the tomb. 
One at night alone, sees Jesus in the garden in a different body, goes and

tells disciples.    Shortly after that, just as it was beginning to get 
light another Mary Magdalene with her companion, Mary the Other, come to 
view the tomb.  Jesus has left already.  But they run into him on the
road. 
They both grab him.  He tells them to tell the disciples he has risen. 
Then AFTER SUNRISE, Jesus' family bring spices along with a third Mary 
Magdalene.  Jesus is long gone by now.  It is day.  The angels tell them
to 
go tell the disciples but they are too afraid.

Now because of cultural bias, "Mary Magdalene" is thought to be one woman,

but there were actually three of them named Mary.  Mary was a very, very, 
very common name, like in Latin countries.  Even in the small company of
the 
women taking care of Jesus, when there was more than one coming to the
tomb, 
there was at least two Marys!!   So Mary Magdalane was a very, very common

name, and the gospels describe when at least three of the Mary Magdalenes 
came to the tomb to clarify which was which.  One MM was attached to the 
household of John and Peter apparently, maybe their housekeeper.  She was 
the one out of which 7 demons were cast out.   The other MM was the 
companion to Mary, the Other, probably her housekeeper.  And the third MM 
was likely the housekeeper for Jesus' mother Mary and her sister, who was
a 
wealthy woman.

Now it might have been nice if at least one of the gospels mentioned:
"Hey, 
there were lots of Marys around as you can see, and in the company of
women 
taking care of Jesus, coincidentally, three Mary Magdalenes!"  But they 
didn't.  It is up to us to determine there were three of them.  It clues
you 
into how the gospels work.

So your focusing on little details of Luke is very good!  Usually when
there 
is a parallel there is some secret being hidden that you have to figure
out.

Once you understand how the Bible is sort of tongue in cheek, you test for

the specific reference rather than the implied context.  Case in point,
the 
year of the second coming is provided for in the chronology of the "7
times" 
prophecy or the "1335 days prophecy."   So when the Bible says "Nobody
knows 
the DAY nor HOUR not even in the Christ" it is a decoy.  It would seem to 
suggest that the Bible doesn't provide the specific YEAR, but it doesn't. 
It means specifically DAY and HOUR.  But this means most will not pay 
attention to chronology and will miss when the messiah is supposed to 
arrive.  They won't be looking, thinking nobody knows when the messiah was

supposed to arrive, generally, including the year.  But that's not the
case.

Thus what you see as little contradictions are actually clues to details
for 
the anointed.  Thus you have many who have a loose interpretation of 
scripture or presume there are contradictions, but in fact, there are none

though the Bible goes out of its way to confuscate its secrets.  It's not 
God's intent for the scorners to understand anything....

ACTS 13:41 'Behold it, YOU scorners, and wonder at it, and vanish away, 
because I am working a work in YOUR days, a work that YOU will by no means

believe even if anyone relates it to YOU in detail.'"

So just as the Bible says, some with eyes cannot see, and some with ears 
cannot hear unless God imparts understanding.   So for some the Bible is 
contradictory and confusing, but for the chosen, it is a book of revealed 
secrets and details.  And LUKE in particular deals with details of the 
second coming.

Even so, some of it is Christian bias and stubborness.  For instance, any 
Jew knows that Passover is eaten on a sabbath day, the 1st day of 
unfermented cakes which falls on the 15th but begins on the 14th in the 
evening.   Jews kill the lambs at 3 p.m. and then at sundown the sabbath 
begins when they eat Passover.  It is eaten right up to midnight then
ended. 
That is the very night they leave Egypt, which is the 15th of Nisan.  The 
same night they eat passover, of course.     So they would know Jesus was 
arrested on a Sabbath day.  They would not be confused about this.    So 
when the specific day of his death is on a preparation day, they know it's
a 
different day, since it is clear he was arrested on Saturday, the 15th! 
Christians, who have disdain for the Jews and their customs thing
everything 
they do is in opposition to God's law, so they ignore the well established

orthodox custom of passover. As a result they imagine not only is there a 
contradiction between John and the Synoptic gospels as to when Jesus ate
the 
passover, but they think he died the same day he ate the passover.   In 
fact, that is impossible and he died on Thursday, Nisan 20th.

Still, the Bible really only "hints" that's the case.  It mentions Jesus 
being in the grave for "three nights" yet dying one day before and one day

after a sabbath.  That means there must have been a double-sabbath
weekend. 
That was not the case of the Nisan 14th weekend, but it was the case of
the 
following weekend in 33 CE where there were two sabbaths, one on the 21st,

which was the 7th day of unfermented cakes, followed by the regular
Saturday 
sabbath.  So the Bible actually provides us the details of when Jesus must

have died, but it is not apparent just reading the gospels.  It almost
seems 
everything happens in one day, but it doesn't.

So many, many think there are contradictions in the gospels because of
their 
own biases, when the gospels are quite harmonious.  But there is such BIAS

that if I told someone there were actually THREE women named Mary
Magdalene 
who came under three different situations to Jesus' tomb and three
different 
times, they can't accept it.  It's easier to believe the gospel writers
just 
got confused.  But at that point God is not concerned because he would
just 
as soon they were blind for having thought that.  God shows things to
those 
who believe and accept the Bible as inspired.  For those who hold back 
expecting the Bible to prove itself, God just may throw stumbling stones
in 
their path so they can never see it.  Even if they are looking right at it

and it is explained in detail, they can't believe it.

As a result, the "insiders" like the "wise virgins" who bring the extra
oil 
get the clear undestanding and they do NOT share it with the "foolish 
virgins", so there is no real effort to enlighten anyone about the details

of Christ.  They see the Christ and see him arrive and see the "sign of
the 
son of man" in heaven, but don't announce it to the world.  It's remains 
their secret and thus they have secret access to the messiah when he comes

as a "thief".

When the messiah is revealed to the world in general it will be after the 
temple has been built, the spiritual temple of 1,440,000 sealed anointed 
ones, with 10% being Jews of 144,000.   It will signal the end of the
world, 
essentially, following which the millennium will begin.   It has now been
16 
years since the seocnd coming in 1992 and the Bible says Satan would be 
loose for just a "short time", so one would think the millennium must be 
very close.    And it would seem so with the impending economic disaster 
impending, which is linked with the destruction of Babylon the Great (i.e.

Illuminati whom the governments owe all these trillions of dollars in
debt).

Lars
 




 36 Posts in Topic:
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
" Sword of the Spiri  2008-05-05 20:00:20 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-05 20:20:18 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Varekem" <h  2008-05-05 15:32:57 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 18:55:39 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-05 23:59:33 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Varekem" <h  2008-05-05 19:55:12 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 20:23:52 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 02:12:25 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 03:50:56 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 09:43:25 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 06:34:29 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 12:24:46 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 18:12:22 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 00:08:44 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Qadosh Stephanos <qado  2008-05-06 01:06:15 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 01:24:17 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Qadosh Stephanos <qado  2008-05-06 02:51:59 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 09:47:43 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Qadosh Stephanos <qado  2008-05-07 01:21:02 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-07 09:22:31 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Qadosh Stephanos <qado  2008-05-07 23:51:03 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 20:41:37 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 02:22:32 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 23:56:36 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 09:59:04 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 06:46:36 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 12:33:02 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 13:40:01 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 19:43:33 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"1st Century Apostol  2008-05-09 07:52:20 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 17:20:35 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Pastor Dave <ananias91  2008-05-05 19:25:56 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 20:59:28 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Pastor Dave <ananias91  2008-05-06 01:57:03 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 06:50:55 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 01:50:02 

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