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> "Lars Wilson" <siaxares@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "The Kat" <news1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 06:55:15 -0500, "Lars Wilson"
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>>> wrote:
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>>>>The Bible requires the appearance of the messiah at the second coming
>>>
>>> The Bible NEVER mentions any 'second coming' of the Messiah!
>>>
>> Maybe not in the specific words Christians have dubbed the "second
>> coming" but it certainly does. A good reference is Hebrews...
>>
>> Hebrews 9:28 "...so also the Christ was offered once for all time to
>> bear the sins of many; and the second time that he appears it will be
>> apart from sin and to those earnestly looking for him for [their]
>> salvation."
>>
>> Yeah, I can see how you were confused. "...second time that he
appears"
>> isn't the same as "second coming." So it is more appropriate to
say,
>> "SECOND time he appears" rather than "second coming." These are two
>> different terms.
>>
>> Obviously "second coming" means the second time he appears, and "second
>> time he appears" means his second coming to the earth as a human. I
>> guess the phrase "second coming" just caught on to describe his second
>> appearance. But I think most would think they both mean pretty much the
>> same thing. But point well taken, the Bible never mentions "second
>> coming" only "second appearance." So from now on when I say "second
>> coming" I really mean "second appearance."
>
> "9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken
> up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they
looked
> stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in
> white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye
gazing
> up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven,
> shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven." Acts
> 1:8-11 (KJV)
>
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> "7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they
> also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because
> of him. Even so, Amen." Rev 1:7-8 (KJV)
>
> They haven't WAILED yet but they will on his Return....
>
Yes they HAVE. They begin to wail when he is first born and the "sign of
the son of man appears" reflecting his painful life (Isa 53). The "sign"
appears in the clouds and depicts the messiah as being dead, a "carcass":
"Where the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together." So
it
is only those who are part of the "eagles" that see the Christ when he
arrives and beat themselves in lamentation. He must be tested for 40
years
before the beginning of the 70th week which begins in 1989 so he must be
born sometime after 1947 but before the fall of 1950. When he is born
the
sign appear and the "eagles" mourn over him.
Notice that the wings of an eagle are given to the "woman" who gives birth
to the messiah. This simply means that after his 40 years of testing and
just before he becomes the messiah he discovers and becomes part of the
"eagle" secret socities of Christ that have a secret placed prepared for
them in the "wilderness" where the Devil cannot see them and thus cannot
interfere directly with them. The messiah is thus represented as being
born out of this woman at the time Satan is kicked out of heaven in 1992
and
is caught up to God, meaning to the bosom position of the father where
spirit of the messiah in heaven is combined with flesh again and the
messiah
becomes the "Son of man" again. Essentially, this person gives up his
life
and Christ uses his identity to reenter the human race. He cannot use his
first perfect body since that was given in sacrifice. That's why he never
reappeared in his own body, he always used other bodies and that is how he
would return. Not in his own body that the disciples knew but in another
body. He would thus only be recognized by what he did, not by any
physical
appearance that would be recognized connected with his previous life at
the
first coming.
So the "beating in lamentation" has occurred from the time of his birth
until the actual second coming in 1992. The beating in lamentation is
over
the messiah who is born an average, sinful man until he becomes the
messiah.
Everyone who is born of Adam is considered to be dead (though there is
obviously more to it than that).
The fact that Christ appears in a regular body at the second coming and
not
like he did before is typified by the second wave offering that is with
leavened loaves. Leaven represents the sinful state. Unleavened bread
represents the perfect, sinless body of Christ as everyone knows. So the
first wave offering is without leaven and the second with. The first
time
Christ arrives he must be a perfect man to be a sacrifice. The second
time,
Christ just "borrows" the body of a human chosen to carry his spirit at
the
second coming and throughout the millennium reign and during Judgment Day.
Any one of his servants could have been chosen since they all must give up
their personal life for the Lord, which they gladly do. That's how Christ
becomes the "Son of man" again and human. He inhabits the body of one of
his secret followers, thus, again, the woman giving birth to the messiah
on
earth while there is already Christ in heaven who just kicked Satan out of
Heaven as Michael. Michael and this chosen secret follower become one at
the second coming in 1992. But he would have been around 40 in 1989 and
thus around 42-43 in 1992. The "sign of the son of man" which represents
him as a dead messiah would have appeared since his birth in 1949-1950.
The messiah must appear sometime after November 30, 1992 but before
Passover
of April 6, 1993. There is no alternative. Satan attempts to stop this
from happening, that is, the chosen secret society member from becoming
one
with the heavenly Christ but he is not able to succeed. The "Two
Witnesses"
succeed in bringing this about. They are said to be killed at the last
minute for 3 days waiting for the "transmigration" between the Christ in
heaven and the chosen messiah to take place. All is quiet during those
three days until it is accomplished. During these three days of silence
the war in heaven takes place and Satan is kicked out of heaven, then the
messiah returns to flesh by taking up the identity of this chosen prophet
who then becomes the messiah. That is when the "two witnesses" then come
back to life when they see a sign in heaven confirming that this person
has
become the messiah. Thus much like Jesus' baptism, a voice out of heaven
says "This is my son, whom I have approved" and the heavenly host is seen
rejoicing. It confirms Satan has been kicked out of heaven. Then the
anointing and sealing of the spiritual temple begins, and the new messiah
begins to "strike the nations" with the long sword of his mouth, basically
condemning them for their waywardness from true wor****p, etc. This
continues for a "short while" while Satan is busy in the earth causing
distractions, until the time runs out and all the members are sealed into
the kingdom. The "four winds of heaven" are held back until this
happens.
But after that, a second "great tribulation" occurs, the Illuminati
organizations influencing the UN are destroyed along with all organized
religion, including Jehovah's witnesses who become the "evil slave"
organization, the "Man of Lawlessness" in God's temple (2 Thess 2:4).
This
is the fourth beast that influences the world that is destroyed by fire.
The other nations give up their authority to the world government of the
UN
and are allowed to live for "a time and a season" meaning a year and 3-4
months after the Illuminati is destroyed and all their funds confiscated.
After that, much like in Egypt, those opposed to Christ's kingdom die in
their sleep over a few days. The birds eat their flesh and the survivors
bury their bones. With no one to oppose Christ's kingdom, he begins his
millennial rule.
It has been 16 years since 1992 and the Bible says Satan is only to be
loose
for a "short while" after he is kicked out of heaven. So his abyssing is
closer than ever. The presumption is, when BTG is destroyed is that the
1,440,000 setas in the new temple have been filled.
The first temple took 22 years to build, though there was a 2-year
interruption. Not sure if we are to parallel this or not with the
spiritual
temple, but basically that's a 20-year period for building the temple if
this is parallel. If we do make that comparison then we are looking at
2012.
In the meantime, the walls were completed in just 16 years after their
return from Babylon. 16 years runs out in 2008, this year.
The temple has four sides and is a CUBE in shape. 4x4=16. Four squared
is
16. ??
16 divided by 12 is 1-1/3. "A time and a season" is 12 is one time, 12
years. Proibably just coincidence, but still 16 is certainly relevant in
terms of the temple since it has four sides.
Lars
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