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Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine

by "Lars Wilson" <siaxares@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 5, 2008 at 08:59 PM

"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:mp5v141ursdip4ijafu9g2gee7dshmmaal@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mon, 5 May 2008 17:20:35 -0500, "Lars Wilson"
> <siaxares@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spake thusly:
>

> The Last Days were in the first century:
>
> James 5:8-9
>
> 8) Be YE also patient; establish YOUR hearts:
> for the coming of the Lord DRAWETH NIGH.
> 9) Grudge not one against another, brethren,
> lest YE be condemned: behold, the judge
> STANDETH BEFORE THE DOOR.
>
The year of the second coming is given to us via formula in the Bible. 
Three different prophecies that have to cross-match to the same year  Here

they are briefly.

1.  The 1335 days prophecy, basically 45 years after the Jews are restored

to their homeland and thus 45 years after 1947, which gives us 1992.

2.  Within a year of the mid-70th week second coming when "gift and 
sacrifice ends" a second time.  This time when Christ comes he eats the 
Lord's Supper one last time and ends that memorial for him kept during the

years he was absent.  We calculate the 70th week in our times with a very 
basic calculation.   The 70th week of the 1st coming was 29-36 CE.  We
just 
count down 70-week periods to our day.  4 x 490 years (70 weeks) is 1960 
years.  Add 1960 years to 36 CE and we see a 490-year period ends in 1996.

That means the 70th week during the middle of which the messiah eats the 
last passover would be 1989-996.  Mid-week Passover is April 6, 1993.   So

the messiah would arrive within a year of Passover of 1992 to Passover of 
1993.  Which is the same time of #1 prophecy, from November 30, 1992 to 
November 29, 1993.   But this limits the time to about 4 months, that is, 
not before November 30, 1992 but not after April 6, 1993.   "Nobody knows 
the DAY nor HOUR" but we can tell you the month and year!

3.  Finally, the "7 times" prophecy, depicting a tree representing the 
earthly representative kingdom of God.  The tree is cut down when
Jerusalem 
is destroyed and it's last king removed.   "7 times" pass over the tree, 
which is 2520 years.   So the messiah would arrive in the earth again as a

king 2520 years after the fall of Jerusalem.   The VAT4956 hides the 
original dating for the NB which had been changed twice by the Persians
and 
never corrected in the secular records, remaining a secret.  But we can
see 
the contradictions.    The VAT4956 dates year 37 of Nebuchadnezzar to 511 
BCE meaning year 19 falls in 529 BCE.  If so, then 2520 years later is
1992. 
If you don't want to deal with long discussions of secular evidence for
the 
dating of the NB Period, you can use the Bible directly.  The beginning
word 
to rebuild Jerusalem in the 1st of Cyrus is 483 years (69 weeks) from when

the messiah is baptized to begin the 70th week, meaning in 455 BCE, since 
Christ was baptized as the messiah in 29 CE.  So if this is a true
absolute 
reference to the 1st of Cyrus when the work began, then 70 years earlier 
would be 525 BCE, year 23, the last de****tation.  In that case, year 19,
the 
year Jerusalem falls in 529 BCE.  Therefore we know the VAT4956 references

to 511 BCE are simply reflecting the original timeline before it was 
revised.  Feel free to look this up but here are the two lines in the 
VAT4956 that match 511 BCE.

 http://www.geocities.com/ed_maruyama/511comp2ja1.JPG
(time comp for 511 
BCE)
All three prophecies point to the same year.  Therefore, ALL scriptures 
talking about how quick or how soon or how near the messiah is will have
to 
be understood in the context of a 1992 end-times setting, including things

written specifically for those during those end-times.

Remember the "end of the system of things" mentioned in Matthew is NOT the

end of the world or Armageddon, but the end of the gentile system of
things 
and ended in 1947.   The "great tribulation" that is completely over even 
before the second coming occurs or the "sign" appears:  "Immediately AFTER

the tribulation of those days..." (Matt. 24:47) was not Armageddon but the

Holocaust.   The "days were cut short" (should have been 7 years) because 
two-thirds of the Jews were exterminated by the end of 1944.  Two thirds 
were to die and one third purified and restored to Palestine.

Everything was fulfilled precisely.  Remember, this "great tribulation" or

the cut off does not occur until after 62 weeks into the last 490 years, 
meaning 434 years.   The Jews must celebrate their 70th jubilee which is
the 
last 49 years in a week of 70 weeks, 3430 years!  The last 49 years begin
in 
1947 since that week ends in 1996  (1996 minus 49 = 1947).  Indeed, that
is 
when the Jews were restored to their homeland, 1947.

 http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/jcovwk1996G.GIF
(Jewish Covenant Week 
Chart)

That leaves just "one hour" or 7 years for this "great tribulation" to
occur 
and the days cut short because it was so severe.   The Holocaust happened 
between 1940-1947.  So this is very specific that needs to be fulfilled 
chronology wise.

The Bible does not contradict itself so some scenario of scripture must 
satisfy the context of the end of the gentile times in 1947 and the second

coming in 1992.

Lars
 




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Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
" Sword of the Spiri  2008-05-05 20:00:20 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-05 20:20:18 
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"Varekem" <h  2008-05-05 15:32:57 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 18:55:39 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-05 23:59:33 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Varekem" <h  2008-05-05 19:55:12 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 20:23:52 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 02:12:25 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 03:50:56 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 09:43:25 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 06:34:29 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 12:24:46 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 18:12:22 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 00:08:44 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Qadosh Stephanos <qado  2008-05-06 01:06:15 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 01:24:17 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Qadosh Stephanos <qado  2008-05-06 02:51:59 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 09:47:43 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Qadosh Stephanos <qado  2008-05-07 01:21:02 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-07 09:22:31 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Qadosh Stephanos <qado  2008-05-07 23:51:03 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 20:41:37 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 02:22:32 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 23:56:36 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 09:59:04 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 06:46:36 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 12:33:02 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 13:40:01 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Zadok" <nob  2008-05-06 19:43:33 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"1st Century Apostol  2008-05-09 07:52:20 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 17:20:35 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Pastor Dave <ananias91  2008-05-05 19:25:56 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-05 20:59:28 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
Pastor Dave <ananias91  2008-05-06 01:57:03 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 06:50:55 
Re: Jesus arrives 45 years after Jews return to Palestine
"Lars Wilson" &  2008-05-06 01:50:02 

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