"Zadok" <nobler@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Varekem" <> wrote in message ...
>> "Zadok" <nobler@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > " Sword of the Spirit" <> wrote in message ...
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>> >> >>>The Bible requires the appearance of the messiah at the second
> coming
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Bible NEVER mentions any 'second coming' of the Messiah!
>> >
>> >> "7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and
>> >> they
>> > also
>> >> which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because
of
>> > him.
>> >> Even so, Amen." Rev 1:7-8 (KJV)
>> >>
>> >> They haven't WAILED yet but they will on his Return....
>> >
>> > Actually, if one reads Matthew 16: 27 and 28 Jesus does tell us about
> his
>> > second coming.
>> >
>> > 27For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his
>> > angels,
>> > and then he will
>> > reward each person according to what he has done. 28I tell you the
> truth,
>> > some who are
>> > standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man
>> > coming
>> > in
>> > his kingdom."
>> >
>> > The key to that of course is that Jesus told his disciples that some
of
>> > them
>> > would be
>> > alive when the second coming happened.
>> >
>> > They Wailed in Jerusalem in 70AD, when Revelation was fulfilled.
>> >
>> > Smile.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> If thats the case, would you mind
>> 1)Identifying the 2 witnesses
>
> When Jesus Christ tells us something, we do not need witnesses.
> And when John Jells us two witnesses will prophesy, we can safely assume
> that their prophesy
> went up in smoke along with most of Jerusalem and the temple.
Gotcha.Unim****tant.
>
>> 2)Identifyin the "Queen of the South"-notice it says "with the men of
>> this
>> generation"(unless the judgment is a separate event-others have claimed
> the
>> judgement occurred then)
>> Luke 11:31
>> "The Queen of the South will rise up with the men of this generation at
> the
>> judgment and condemn them, because she came from the ends of the earth
to
>> hear the wisdom of Solomon; and behold, something greater than Solomon
is
>> here.
>
> I fail to see why anyone would try and identify what Luke wrote.
> Perhaps you can tell me when Luke met Jesus, when he studied with Jesus?
> Tell us, did Luke ever know Jesus??
>
> Let me give you an example of Luke and his tendency to make up stories.
>
> Matthew 27: 44 - The thieves revile Jesus along with everyone else.
> Mark 15: 32 - The thieves revile Jesus along with everone else.
> Mark supposedly got his story from Peter.
>
> Let me guess, Matthew and Peter were there??
>
> But Luke. who was never there, has this cute little story about one of
the
> thieves standing up for Jesus.
>
> But, listen, you go with the gentile story teller.
> I'll stick to accounts from people who were there.
>
> That sound fair to you??
Luke is bogus.ON to the next
>
>> 3)Explaining why that quote doesnt mean his appearance after his death
>
> Because you then would have to explain, where in Verse 27, Jesus
rewarded
> every man according to his works.
Uh, the context of the appearance after his death is 28, which is the
context of this
>> > The key to that of course is that Jesus told his disciples that some
of
>> > them
>> > would be
>> > alive when the second coming happened.
That sentence begins with "I tell you the truth", whiuh in fact is moving
on
to another subject than was verse 27, which is reward at the end of
time.How were the apostles rewarded after his death?
Take your time, this ought to be interesting.
>
> But go right ahead if you have the verses. OR NOT!!
>
>> (Mary Magdalene visits the tomb, sees an angel in the tomb and Jesus)
>
> ?????
11 Now Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over
to
look into the tomb 12 and saw two angels in white, seated where Jesus'
body
had been, one at the head and the other at the foot.
13 They asked her, "Woman, [a] why are you crying?"
?????
>
>> 4)Identifying Babylon the Great
>
> Did Babylon the great sit on seven mountains??
Hills, yes
> Is Rome the city of seven hills??
Its on 7 hills.
> Did Rome destroy Jerusalem and the temple in 70AD??
Huh?
>
> Any of that connect for you??
>
> Smile.
Just the 7 hills.The rest, not at all, since I know we arent living in a
fulfillment of what the messiah was supposed to do.
>
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