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> > > > > >> "Stanley F. Nelson" <stan02...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > >> > Being a faithful Anglican Christian requires much prayer,
mo=
re
> > > > > >> > faith,
> > > > > >> > and
> > > > > >> > at least some degree of humility. The "revisionists" know
it=
is
> > > > > >> > so
> > > > > >> > much
> > > > > >> > easier and so much more fun to do what one wants to do,
when
> > > > > >> > one
> > > > > >> > wants
> > > > > >> > to
> > > > > >> > do it, when one wants to do it, with whomever one wishes.
An=
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> > > > > >> > go
> > > > > >> > to
> > > > > >> > church when one feels like it, vested properly or not.
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> > > > > >> > For now, the revisionists appear to be winning.
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> > > > > >> I assume you are referring to the situation in the American
TE=
C?
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> > > > > > The Church of England is doing very well, thank you.
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> > > > > > Tim.
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> > > > > >>>The Shrinking Church of England>>
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> > > > > > I keep hearing that. But in reality it means that the ladies
in
> > > > > > posh
> > > > > > hats
> > > > > > who used to go to church because it was 'expected', or blokes
w=
ho
> > > > > > went
> > > > > > because it went with social climbing, no longer feel the need.
> > > > > > Now,
> > > > > > nearly everyone that goes to a C of E church is a Christian.
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> > > > > > Tim.
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> > > > > This morning at the Sunday Morning Mass, our church was SO
cramme=
d
> > > > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > rafters that I ended up having to give up my seat, and go and
sta=
nd
> > > > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > Lady Capel!
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> > > > > Tim.
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> > > > "WHAT is clear now is that the Lambeth Conference is just one of
> > > > several networks in the Anglican Communion which could include
GAFC=
ON
> > > > and Common Cause Partner****p."
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> > > > They *chose* not to go to Lambeth.
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> > > > "These 600 bishops represent only 15
> > > > million Anglicans, while the 303 GAFCON bishops represented 40
mill=
ion
> > > > church-going Anglicans around the globe."
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> > > > Bully-by-numbers?
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> > > >>Lambeth is bully by minority
> > > rule.
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> > > Rubbish! If people who were invited *chose* not to go and put their
> > > point
> > > of view, obviously their point of view can't matter much to them.
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> > > Tim.
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> > >>The right to vote was denied.
> > That shows who is denying rights.
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> > This is not a democratic issue, so 'voting' is irrelevant. Voting
would
> > mean 'Bully-by-numbers', as the evangelicals force out the
> > latitudinarians.
> > The alternative is to have a vote, and then ignore the result in order
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to
> > protect minorities. Why go through that pointless excercise? Let's
lear=
n
> > to accept one-another, instead.
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> > Tim.
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> =A0 =A0 'Bully-by-numbers' is ok when those opposed
> =A0 =A0 =A0to WO are outvoted and denied any refuge?
> =A0 =A0 =A0I guess you believe in the ye olde double standard?
> =A0 =A0 =A0I hope, I am wrong?
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> =A0 =A0 =A0Jim
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> I think it's early days yet. =A0There IS supposedly a 'Code of Practice'
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being
> discussed which would enable those who in conscience object to women as
> bishops to have a male alternative brought in to preside over some key
> functions. =A0It is my belief that most people, in practice, would
honour
> that. =A0We should wait and see what is offered, before diving off at
the=
deep
> end. =A0You see, the nature of Anglicanism is pastoral rather than
heirac=
hal.
> We just do not have the equivalent to a 'Vatican' casting injunctions.
> Rather, we have a pastoral leader****p that encourages us to try and get
> along with each other, despite our differences. =A0As we have seen, if
La=
mbeth
> does try to issue statements, they can be ignored. =A0That is because
the
> leader****p does not have 'authority' as such, it is a loose association
o=
f
> church groups which are largely autonomous.
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> Tim.
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If those in power don't do the right
thing, many will go to GAFCON or Rome.
Jim
Tit 1:5 -For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest
set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every
city, as I had appointed thee:
> =A0 =A0 =A0Mt 5:37 - But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay:
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or
> whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
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> > Jim
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> > Job 7:11 - "Therefore I will not restrain my mouth; I will speak in
> > the anguish of my spirit; I will complain in the bitterness of my
> > soul.
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> > > Jim
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> > > Ps 119:4 - Thou hast commanded us
> > > to keep thy precepts diligently.
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> > > > "I wrote a story do***enting
> > > > who is not here which you can read here.http://tinyurl.com/5hokxg"
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