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Re: The Early Christians: Self-Portraits and Portrayals

by Bruderhof <contact@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 25, 2005 at 02:58 PM

Greg G. wrote:

> Neither would we be put to death, nor would unjust people, and demons,
> have any power over us, were it not for the fact that every one who is
> born must die, without exception. We are glad, therefore, when we are
> allowed to pay off this common debt.
> 
> Justin, Second Apology 11.
> 

And now I want to turn to the person who asserts or believes that we are 
initiated by the murder and the blood of a little child. Can you think it 
possible that such a tender, tiny body should be gashed with mortal
wounds, 
that anyone alive would slaughter a little baby hardly come into being, to

spill, drain, and drink its innocent blood? Nobody can believe such a
thing 
unless he is capable of doing it himself. But I do see people among you at

times expose newly born children to wild beasts and birds and at other 
times put them to death by strangling or by other horrible means. Some 
women destroy the unborn child in their womb by taking drugs, thus 
committing infanticide before they are delivered.
For us it is not permissible even to see or to hear of murder. Yes, we 
shrink so much from human blood that we do not even use the blood of 
animals in the food we eat.

Moreover, the rabble of demons has concocted the grandiose fable of 
incestuous banquets against us to throw the mud of ugly shame upon the
good 
name of our chastity. They tried, through the horror of these outrageous 
opinions about us, to turn people away from seeking the knowledge of the 
truth. Even Fronto, whom you cite, did not produce any evidence based on 
affirmed testimony but simply gave vent to rhetorical abuse. The banquets 
that we organize are as chaste as they are sober. We do not like sumptuous

eating, nor do we prolong our meals with drinking bouts. We know how to 
temper our gaiety with seriousness.

Minucius Felix, Octavius 30.1, 2, 6; 31.1, 5.




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The Early Christians: Self-Portraits and Portrayals
Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-22 09:18:46 
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"Megan R." <  2005-11-22 09:19:22 
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Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-22 09:20:09 
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Greasy <contact@[EMAIL  2005-11-22 09:20:31 
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Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-22 09:20:55 
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Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-22 13:37:41 
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Jim <contact@[EMAIL PR  2005-11-23 08:36:35 
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Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-23 08:38:39 
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"Greg G." <i  2005-11-23 08:39:33 
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Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-23 08:39:59 
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Mary <help@[EMAIL PROT  2005-11-23 13:23:22 
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Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-24 16:44:08 
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Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-25 14:56:18 
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"Megan R." <  2005-11-25 14:56:53 
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Adam <contactbruderhof  2005-11-25 14:57:24 
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Greasy <contact@[EMAIL  2005-11-25 16:28:23 
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"Greg G." <i  2005-11-25 14:57:46 
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Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-25 14:58:18 
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"Greg G." <i  2005-11-25 16:24:05 
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Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-25 16:25:37 
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Mary <help@[EMAIL PROT  2005-11-25 16:28:50 
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Bruderhof <contact@[EM  2005-11-25 16:38:17 
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