>> >> --------------------------
>> >> "Do not run to 'finish' the race; run to win."
>> >> Paul the Apostle, 1st C. AD
>> >
>>
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>John W wrote:
>>
>> Someone is obsessed with me, to have gone to all that trouble to
>> "locate" "other identities", 3/4 of which I know nothing about..
>
>I am quite sure of the names listed Mr. John D. Weatherly,
>so take your time and look them over again and if you are
>still in doubt I'll show do***entation for each of the names
>below. My goal will be for all 4/4 of them. Again the list
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>John D. Weatherly
Why do you bother? And why should I bother with YOU? You are OBVIOUSLY
a hate filled, mentally ill person. God has forgiven my sins and
forgotten. Yet your hatred of me, whom you don't know, is eating you
alive. Also, you aren't being loving; you are obsessed. Why spend SO
MUCH TIME "tracking me down?" You are obsessed.
Get over it.
John W>
>Do***entation in a week if you don't own up JohnW
I already did. All you want is 10 gallons of my blood, and you can't
help that. And you continue to harass, and I continue to collect
information for the authorities. Do me a favor and keep it up! You're
dangerous.
John W
>
>> Get thee some help, psycho.
>
>This from Mr. John D. Weatherly a professor of smut and ****
>ads?
>
>ujb
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> On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 12:44:28 -0500, "Paul" <p...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> ><snip>
> >
> >>> I'm NOT stupid! I have an undergraduate degree and 2 Masters
degrees
> >> >> in progress.
> >> >
> >> >Sorry, John, but I just don't believe you.
> >>
> >> I'll lose a month's sleep over that, believe me!
> >>
> >> I think that this is what you wish was true,
> >>
> >> I am surprised you admit to thinking, if you want to get nasty!
> >>
> >> but I cannot imagine a university, or college that would
> >> >grant you any kind of degree.
> >>
> >> So you admit to having no imagination either!
> >>
> >> Feel free to correct me by naming the institution where you are
> >> studying,
> >>
> >> LOL!
> >>
> >> Not that it's any of your business, and not that you are going to
take
> >> any of this seriously (you just look to nitpick, not to gather
> >> information)
> >
> >This is all the information I need. You make the rest obvious to
everyone.
> >
> >> So much for YOUR attention to detail. I've SEVERAL times now posted
> >> the Universities, colleges, and seminaries I have attended. Look for
> >> them! I'm sure you've heard of at least 2 of the three.
> >> (And, Sherlock, I have NOTHING to prove to you!)
> >
> >It is not so much as I have heard of them. It is that they have never
heard
> >of you.
>
> And, oh, Mr. Mouth, you know that HOW? This isn't argument or debate.
> You've lowered yourself to PURE character assassination! How silly!
> How little boy of you!
Nonesense. It is you who have told us that you are untrainable except
for
maunel labor.
> >
> >> I've said repeatedly that I have a BA in Journalism from Cal State.
My
> >> masters work was done at two seminaries and a university
concurrently.
> >> (yes, I AM that smart) I continued my MS in Psychology at Cal State,
> >> while I went to California Graduate School of Theology in Glendale,
> >> CA, to begin my MATh. I concurrently attended Fuller Theological
> >> seminary. In other words, 3 grad schools at one time!
> >> I did not attend the seminaries for 2 years. As I clarified several
> >> times already, I attended the two seminaries, taking VERY different
> >> subjects, and attended until the money ran out.
> >>
> >> and if you do I am sure it will be a degree mill and if you don't,
do
> >> not worry we will all understand.
> >>
> >> I don't care if you understand. And so much for your degree mill. It
> >> must be AWFUL to be as opinionated as you are and be SO wrong, too!
> >> You know what happens when you assume like this? You make an ass of
> >> yourself! Good job!
> >
> >John, just stating that you attended these schools is not proof that
you
> >actually did. Now, perhaps you did and then subsquently degenerated
into
> >the state you now find yourself in, but these are things that we shall
never
> >knoe unless you care to provide do***entation.
>
> I have. You rejected it as I predicted. You're merely being a one-up
> wise-ass at this point. I reject that. I'm a Christian doing the best
> I can do to evangelize! Can YOU say that? I have NOTHING to prove to
> anyone, including YOU!
Just as much as you can. You do not act like an evangelist, but instead
a
crass disrespectful teenager.
> > >I think you are like those kids we all knew who's dad's belonged to
the
> >CIA, and FBI, and were so very im****tant, or rich , or whatever they
could get
> >us to swallow, but by the time the school year ended we all knew that
they
> >were just sad lonely insecure kids who couldn't figure out how to be
accepted
> >by others.
>
> And so, let's say I AM one of those kids (partially correct), this is
> how you treat "sad, lonely, insecure kids"?
Yes, because when that kid can understand that they need this type of
discipline and when they begin to listen to it and make changes based
upon
it. They will begin to win the genuine respect of there fellow posters,
and
not some pretended respect to keep the handicapped kid happy.
Do you want genuine respect, or do you just want us to pretend around you
to
make you happy. You would be surprised at how many of us are eager and
waiting to accept you for who you are rather than what you are always
boasting about. In fact I could almost promise you that those like
Ronald,
Lamarr, and myself are more loving towards you by being honest than if we
just gritted our teeth and took all your insults and pretended to like
you.
> How Christian of you! I'll be sure to watch you CLOSELY so I can
> follow your example! You're SO good at this character assassination
> stuff!
John, Character assassination is when someone makes up lie about your
character just to smear your reputation. No one is doing that to you.
NO
ONE! We are simply reflecting back to you the way you come off to us.
> >> Sniff! Sniff! Paul doesn't like me! I'll lose 5 minutes sleep
tonight!
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> I agree to disagree with many of you. Will you return the favor?
My
> >> >> ONE concern in here is that something I say or something YOU say
gets
> >> >> through to a lost person and (s)he finds Christ!
> >> >
> >> >John, at this point you need to live out these sentiments on this
NG
for
> >a
> >> >while. You have made this type of plea before and it didn't last.
> >>
> >> As I have said repeatedly, I'm doing the best I can. I have admitted
> >> several times now that I have a disability. You need know no more.
If
> >> I told ALL, I would not get one INCH more respect!
> >> (If my posts bother you SO much, why do you read them? Are you a
> >> masochist? Then you need REAL help!)
> >
> >There is not an inch of respect that can be taken from you even now,
so
> >being honest couldn't hurt you anymore than you have already hurt
yourself.
>
> AGAIN, you miss /ignore my point in your race to hammer yours home!
> That ignoring my point isn't discussion! It's arrogance! I neither
> need nor want nor desire your respect. I don't know you! I MEANT that
> no matter WHAT I say or do, you're the ... you are and your behavior
> isn't going to change! I think my big brother Paul is very sad right
> now that you have the same name!
If you are referring to the Apostle Paul I am afraid he is dead.
> >Even in this post you do nothing but constantly throw insults and
whine
> >about how people should put up with your disrespectful, insolent
behaviour,
> >put forth undo***ented claims about your intellegence.
>
> The two or three of you who have thrown those insults at ME are as
> guilty as you say I am! Pot and kettle! I keep apologizing and saying
> I'm doing my best. That isn't good enough! It's all I have.
No one has thrown insults at you. Many have called you on the carpet for
lousy, rude, behavior. That is a far cry from insulting you.
> The solution? Don't read my posts!
> >
> >> And you
> >> >need to be honest with us.
> >>
> >> I always am. ARe you?
> >>
> >> We really won't care that much if you are just a guy with a High
> >> School diploma.
> >>
> >> Ditto! If you aren't as educated as some of us, don't be ashamed. I
> >> had my IQ measured before I even ATTEMPTED college! I didn't want to
> >> waste my time! Having been assured by the numbers AND the
counseling,
> >> that I was "WELL above average" (read low end of the gifted/genius
> >> range). I then found out that I could/did GROW my IQ! I STILL have
> >> arguments with both my therapist and my psychiatrist that one can
grow
> >> one's IQ! I did! When I took the Mensa test (again, I have nothing
to
> >> prove, but you've made my intelligence and education an issue), I
was
> >> happy to have missed member****p in Mensa (top 5% IQ of the
population)
> >> by One Question!
> >
> >Was this a one question IQ test, or the two question variety.
>
> I didn't notice, or I forgot. It was the standard IQ measurement given
> by the Psych Dept at Pepperdine U where I was a full scholar****p
> student. (I don't care if you disbelieve THAT!)
What happened between then and now when you are deemed untrainable except
for manual labor?
> As you SHOULD know, as bright and informed as you claim to be, the
> only way to take a Mensa test is to apply to Mensa. I suppose you
> could ask THEM!
As you should know, Mensa is a money making club predicated on the pride
of
human beings. It serves no purpose other than to collect its dues.
> But I believe that information is confidential. However, once you
> have contacted them, let me know and I'll sign a release for you to
> have that information. I had the do***ents until, as I alluded several
> times previously, I was homeless for almost 2 years and lost all my
> property, do***ents and all.
>
> I know this typing is a total waste of energy. You're another
> nit-picker! However, others will at least see that I tried to answer
> your question, when they seemed within bounds.
>
> >Again you make an undo***ented claim. The truth is, John, that any
> >respectable psychologist would have informed you of the unreliability
of
IQ
> >tests in measuring intelligence.
>
> They did. And I replied that all I was interested in was did I have
> enough gray matter to get a university degree? They assured me I
> did/do! Assume, assume, assume! And you don't even give me the tiniest
> benefit of the doubt! You aren't concerned with my soul! You want to
> pick my "resume" to pieces! Good luck!
I assure you, your soul is the most im****tant thing to me.
> You didn't even bother to give us the name
> >of the IQ test, whether it was standardized or not, who standardized
it
and
> >what was their criterion for standardization.
>
> Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z. I'd say a university with the standing
> of Pepperdine U when I was there answers your skepticism. When I
> attended Pepperdine as a J school, it was in the top 10 J schools in
> America! When I matriculated to Cal State Northridge (where the huge
> earthquake happened), I found myself attending one of the top 5 J
> schools in America! And I carried a 3.75 into my senior year, when I
> had an argument with a prof over his misquoting the Bible. I called
> him on it; he gave me my first "D" in my university history. And the
> last! He killed my 3.75 and reduced it to a 2.75. I barely got into
> grad school. But I 4.0'd grad school.
Why are you now at a state where you are untrainable then? Your story
just
doesn't jibe. One would expect that a person who could hold a 2.75 GPA
through four years of College to be imminently trainable. Please
explain.
>
> All of this is vitally
> >im****tant in determining whether the test is valid and if so just what
it
> >was measuring.
>
> Vitally im****tant to Whom? Youm? Big! As said, the two IQ tests I have
> taken were administered by Pepperdine University School of Psychology,
> and Mensa in Los Angeles.
>
> Wanna check? Go right ahead, if it'll shut you up! You might ALSO went
> to check on my full scholar****p to Pepperdine U. I'll let you.
>
> In fact, you could check a little anecdote:
> When I arrived at the school my first day, I had a sit-down with the
> Dean of the J school, Dr. Clifford Wilson (you can check). He had
> given me a full scholar****p, called a "Special Writing Achievement
> Award". I thanked him for it. He thanked me for accepting it. I said I
> was honored to be at a University with such polished professional
> writers. He said I was one of them! He said that's why I and other
> students were given scholar****ps! They recruited the best J students
> from other surrounding schools, and then WE made the J school look
> good! That's worth money to the school, so I was recruited as an
> emerging, very talented writing, for which I've also received awards!
> One award I received was (as I recall) a MEMO typed "Thanks for that
> great job on the Foster Grandparents Program article!"
Trust me, John, I am qualified to say this. The samples you have
published
on this NG. Do not reflect your claims. They are not amazing specimens
of
writing. I mean no disrespect, but that is just simply the truth.
Perhaps
you could post the best award winning piece you wrote.
Perhaps you would allow me to read some of your published works.
> I thought, "So what?" Dr. Wilson said, "I can see the look on your
> face you don't have a clue what you're looking at."
>
> "No, I guess I don't. It's a memo!"
>
> "Yeah, and I've been trying to get them to do it fancy since I've been
> here, my 16 years (approx years). The special thing is, in my 16 years
> at this school, that's ONLY the third MEMO I've seen!"
>
> I said, "Oh!" beginning to absorb.
>
> "That says you're a VERY special person!"
>
> The history of the MEMO/article is this: I mentioned the Foster
> Grandparents Program I wrote the article about. And I KNOW you've all
> heard of the Foster Grandparents Program. They're all over the
> country. Well, this was the Pilot Foster Grandparents Program! And my
> article drew SO MUCH ATTENTION, it grew from there!
>
> That was what that award was about! I don't take all the credit; I had
> an editor who was already a working pro on the local newspaper, the LA
> Times (if any of you have heard of it)
>
> >
> >As to your claim to have a degree in Journalism. This claim only does
one
> >of two things: 1) Discredits Cal State's Journalisim program, or shows
that
> >you are fudgeing a bit.
>
> Hahahahaha! Tell you what! If you like, I'll even give you permission
> to do***ent my BA! You write the school, and I'll sign the paperwork!
> Hehehe! You don't care! You just wanna snipe! Snipe away!
I never said definitively that you didn't get one, just that if you did
it
reflects poorly on Cal State.
> I quoted from a Robert Burns poem in a post to you
> >a while back. Not only could you not even read it, but you went on to
ask
> >who wrote it when the name Robert Burns was clearly posted at the end.
>
> At 3 or 4 am or so, I barely got through the poem, and NO, I did NOT
> see the author. Big! To YOU it's a big! You need a life! BOY, YOU are
> the guy who wrote the manual "HOw to Nit-Pick!" And you CERTAINLY
> honor God!
>
> >
> >You, a Journalism major, and you can't read Burns? Incredible!
>
> One has NOTHING to do with the other. Journalism, while requiring a
> college degree, does NOT require one to read Elizabethan. And as a
> non-Journalist, you have NO idea what the curriculum is.
That is nonsense. How did you get through "The Canterbury Tales", Or
"Beowulf"?
>
> What are they teaching you guys these days. Is this an example of
> affirmative action for the educationally challenged?
>
> While a Journalism degree may not have all the wrinkles of other
> Liberal Arts programs, it DOES a unique thing. The Journalism degree
> literally trains the student so that once he graduates, he is fully
> competent to start working as a re****ter or freelancer. I chose
> freelance. I can't stand media politics (we hear what they tell us).
> >
> >> Can YOU say YOU're that bright? And don't you know how many gifted
> >> people have had mental issues AND artistic talent? Edgar Allen Poe
was
> >> bi-polar, Michelangelo was bi-polar, Da vinci was mentally ill, and
> >> the list goes on.
> >
> >You display a profound lack of knowledge even in the areas you claim
> >expertise in.
>
> Nonsense. You are expressing ONE person's opinion, which you
> consistently fail to label as such. You presume to speak for the
> planet! EVERYONE but me!
>
> The luminaries you mentioned above excelled in there gifts
> >and left no room for doubt about their intelligence and genius. This
is
in
> >stark contrast with your performance on this NG.
>
> In your opinion. I've posted some of my poetry. I'd post some works in
> progress or published work, but I have very little published work
> available (stolen), and i can't put work in progress in here. I
> wouldn't trust you or others to not misuse it.
From what you have published here I can say with full confidence that no
self-respecting writer would even want to steal your stuff. You can
consider that a professional opinion.
> If you think that my writing in here is indicative of my writing
> talent, ridiculous! Shows you know NOTHING about the creative process.
> I wouldn't show a POEM I hadn't worked on for a month at LEAST! The
> work comes from the soul INSPIRED, NOT polished!
>
> My poems are polished. My short stories and articles are polished. You
> know NOTHING of that process, since I type "train of thought" in here.
> That means spontaneously, in case you aren't a trained
> journalist/writer and you didn't know that.
Sigh!
> >
> >> In fact we'd like you better being honest rather than inflating
your
> >> resume when it is painfully obvious to us all that your grasp far
> >> exceeds your reach.
> >>
> >> Well, I'm sorry you don't like me for dishonesty, when I'm being 100
> >> percent honest. I can't do any better than that. And stop speaking
for
> >> everyone. Speak for yourself! And I'm amused that you feel my
"resume"
> >> was so inflated. If you saw my resume, you should KNOW what
> >> universities and seminaries I attended. Which means that all this
> >> explanation I bothered with was wasted! You aren't looking for
"facts"
> >> or "clarification". You somehow think you'll get me to "admit"
> >> something. I already HAVE! Only me doesn't satisfy you! You want
> >> ANOTHER me.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> Is ANY of us more im****tant than leading the lost to the fold?
> >> >
> >> >Yes, apologizing to people whom you have insulted, castigated, and
> >accused
> >> >falsely.
> >>
> >> You mis-read the last statement. LOL! I asked if any of US is more
> >> im****tant than evangelism. You responded "yes, apologizing is more
> >> im****tant than soul winning!"
> >>
> >> Now aren't YOU just full of yourself? I don't know WHY! I'm not
> >> impressed! You're judgmental, you're arrogant; you assume, assume,
> >> assume, and you fabricate!
> >>
> >John, if you listened to just 1/4 of what I said and took it to heart
you'd
> >be that much better off. And yes, you must apologize in order to be
used
by
> >God. Lastly, you must never assume that you can lead anyone to the
fold.
> >That is what Jesus does. The best we can be is a tool in his hand.
>
> That's YOUR interpretation/opinion. I do not share it!
>
> Paul, I KEEP listening for you to say SOMETHING! You continue to
> disappoint me and others, I'm sure!
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>On Mon, 05 May 2003 15:53:10 -0700, John W <j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>The Journalism Degree that I received from Cal State Northridge
>>qualifies the graduate to be a 1-person publi****ng company.
>
>I published and distributed a newspaper when I was around 10 or 11. I
>had worked enough to buy the small printing press.
>
>When I was 14, a friend and I built a radio station because there was
>not one in our county.
>
>And at that age, neither of us had a degree.
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>Rev. D*
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>
>
>Was there a point there somewhere? Or are you merely throwing rocks
again,
to see what you'll hit? Such is not Christian activity (as much as is
posible be at peace with all men) and YOU aren't even making the
effort!
John W
>
>
>
>
>
>The FBI is after you!!!
>http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/index.html
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> Such jealous children!
Jealous? LOL Of what? It was better when john_seeks was about. LOL
Oh, no! Do you think that JWjr will discover john_seeks?
> My goodness!
When are we to see your goodness, JW?
> John W
Hey, JW...
http://groups.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=6vi3ah%
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> >On Wed, 07 May 2003 17:32:06 GMT, Don <calldonREM...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>On 07 May 2003 16:25:25 GMT, randomexpos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>Subject: A Few Haikus - by John Weatherly
> >>>>From: John W john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>Date: 4/30/03 9:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> >>>>Message-id: <2sivavg6dranfrsge9m1vmvqfug6va4...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>
> >>
> >>>> Christmas
> >>>>
> >>>> The small boy takes
> >>>> his new sled out
> >>>> And waits for snow.
> >>>>
> >>>> I sang offkey
> >>>> I was alone
> >>>> It sounded beautiful to me.
> >>>>
> >>>>I hope you all enjoyed a few poems.
> >>>>
> >>>>Moving on,
> >>>>
> >>>what the hell was this?
> >>
> >>The writings of a mentally ill person who is delusional.
> >>
> >>Rev. Dr. D*
> >>
> >>The comments of a mentally ill peson who is delusional.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us
> >>with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
> >>-- Galileo Galilei
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>> Posting this in a Baptist NG is a clear attempt at trolling
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>> You want to be a Romanist apologist, that's your problem.
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>Well Josh perhaps you haven't noticed.....some here are more interested
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>talking about the Catholic Church than they are about Jesus.
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>it may be, there is very little discussion about Jesus here, just the
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Chill, folks; let's ALL try to be a little more Christian tomorrow
than we were today!
That's called "spiritual growth."
In Christ,
John W
>May the Peace of the Lord be with you Josh.
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David Jensen wrote:
>>>So far, I have the claims of one man, who, when his first claim is
>>>proven wrong, says that it might be here, or here, or here, or twenty
>>>other places
>>
>>Funny. Right in the middle of questioning MY honesty, you lie. I never
>>said "20 other places." I said two. Two bases, two gates. That's 4
>>max. Do you lie just for emphasis? Or to draw attention?
> If my estimate of the number of other places that you seem to have
asked
> for is low, I am sorry. Yes, you started out with one base, then added
> another, then added gates, and that is four. Then, however, you added
> distances from gates when the photos showed that no such building was
> right outside the gate, then you added that maybe the building was
> hidden some other buildings because it could not be seen, how many
> actual places need to be searched to verify this?
A week and a half ago, I sent an e-mail to the community
relations office of Lakenheath RAF, asking them about a
"baptist church" near the gates of the base. I just
received an e-mail today from the community relations
officer at Lakenheath RAF. Coupled with Andrew's evidence
he collected, this is pretty much the nail in the coffin
for John W.
Note that I'm taking out the e-mail address, since I don't
want certain persons sending hate mail to these fine folks
that are serving both the USA and Britain. I'm not interested
in whether or not certain persons believe or disbelieve this,
I'm just passing it on to the more rational members of the
newsgroup that have participated in this discussion.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Davidson Sal Civ 48FW/CRA" <***email address***>
To: <raamtho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Cc: "Ackerman William B MSgt 48FW/PA" <***email address***>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: Church in Lakenheath
Dear Daniel,
I have been passed your email requesting information regarding a
Baptist Church in Lakenheath. I have done some research and have
had a detailed conversation with someone who has lived in the village
of Lakenheath for many years.
I have not been able to find any evidence to suggest there was a Baptist
Church near the base gates. There have been some small Anglican
establishments but nothing which would wholly fit your description.
As you have stated, maybe there has been a mix up with RAF Alconbury.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards
Miss Sal Davidson
48FW Community Relations Adviser
ps: Sorry for the delay in the reply, I have just returned from leave.
--end quote--
So, coupled with this, and the church that Andrew photographed
in his trip to Alconbury, we can reasonably assume that John
went to the Baptist church outside the gate of Alconbury, and
his self-admitted deteriorating mind has mixed up the facts
and added his own delusions of "6th Century Baptists" having
a church there.
This is my final post in this matter, so John is more than
welcome to try to deny this is a real post from a real
person on the base, and he can say that I made this up to
attempt to discredit him further. I really don't care at
all about that. This is just a public service for the
rest of the folks on the board. I hope certain someones
will not go out of their way to find the person who sent
me this e-mail and start a barage of hate against them. I
would just like to point out that, as this is a military
person who sent me this e-mail, harrassment of her or anyone
else at Lakenheath would become a federal matter.
Daniel
----
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Professor of Sociology | incerta pro certis habere,
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David Jensen wrote:
>>>So far, I have the claims of one man, who, when his first claim is
>>>proven wrong, says that it might be here, or here, or here, or twenty
>>>other places
>>
>>Funny. Right in the middle of questioning MY honesty, you lie. I never
>>said "20 other places." I said two. Two bases, two gates. That's 4
>>max. Do you lie just for emphasis? Or to draw attention?
> If my estimate of the number of other places that you seem to have
asked
> for is low, I am sorry. Yes, you started out with one base, then added
> another, then added gates, and that is four. Then, however, you added
> distances from gates when the photos showed that no such building was
> right outside the gate, then you added that maybe the building was
> hidden some other buildings because it could not be seen, how many
> actual places need to be searched to verify this?
A week and a half ago, I sent an e-mail to the community
relations office of Lakenheath RAF, asking them about a
"baptist church" near the gates of the base. I just
received an e-mail today from the community relations
officer at Lakenheath RAF. Coupled with Andrew's evidence
he collected, this is pretty much the nail in the coffin
for John W.
Note that I'm taking out the e-mail address, since I don't
want certain persons sending hate mail to these fine folks
that are serving both the USA and Britain. I'm not interested
in whether or not certain persons believe or disbelieve this,
I'm just passing it on to the more rational members of the
newsgroup that have participated in this discussion.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Davidson Sal Civ 48FW/CRA" <***email address***>
To: <raamtho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Cc: "Ackerman William B MSgt 48FW/PA" <***email address***>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: Church in Lakenheath
Dear Daniel,
I have been passed your email requesting information regarding a
Baptist Church in Lakenheath. I have done some research and have
had a detailed conversation with someone who has lived in the village
of Lakenheath for many years.
I have not been able to find any evidence to suggest there was a Baptist
Church near the base gates. There have been some small Anglican
establishments but nothing which would wholly fit your description.
As you have stated, maybe there has been a mix up with RAF Alconbury.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards
Miss Sal Davidson
48FW Community Relations Adviser
ps: Sorry for the delay in the reply, I have just returned from leave.
--end quote--
So, coupled with this, and the church that Andrew photographed
in his trip to Alconbury, we can reasonably assume that John
went to the Baptist church outside the gate of Alconbury, and
his self-admitted deteriorating mind has mixed up the facts
and added his own delusions of "6th Century Baptists" having
a church there.
This is my final post in this matter, so John is more than
welcome to try to deny this is a real post from a real
person on the base, and he can say that I made this up to
attempt to discredit him further. I really don't care at
all about that. This is just a public service for the
rest of the folks on the board. I hope certain someones
will not go out of their way to find the person who sent
me this e-mail and start a barage of hate against them. I
would just like to point out that, as this is a military
person who sent me this e-mail, harrassment of her or anyone
else at Lakenheath would become a federal matter.
Daniel
----
_____________________________________________________________
Daniel S. Vieira |"Quid enim est stultius quam
Professor of Sociology | incerta pro certis habere,
http://www.danielvieira.com
| falsa pro veris?" -- Cicero
"Nemo enim se mutat; qui mutari se desperet" -- Seneca
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>> > > The judge at the center of a dispute over displaying the Ten
>> > > Commandments on public property said Wednesday he is defying a
>federal
>> > > court order to remove the monument from the state judicial
>building.
>> > >
>> > > The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals earlier this year agreed with a
>> > > ruling by U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson, who held the
>monument
>> > > violates the constitution's ban on government promotion of
>religion.
>> >
>> > There is no constitutional ban on a state government's promotion of
>> > religion.
>
>Correct.
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>> > The U.S. Constitution forbids only the U.S. Congress from enacting
>any
>> > law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
>free
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>from passing laws which either establish religion or prohibit its free
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>However, "establishment" is not the same as "promotion". For example,
>tax exemptions for churches is "promotion" of religion, but it is not
>"establishment" of a national or state religion. Neither is the erecting
>of a public monument to the Ten Commandments.
>
However, as I mentioned in another post, both the freedom of speech
and the freedom of religion have been abridged in Seattle, where about
10 yaers ago, it became illegal (I believe a misdemeanor) for anyone
to say ANYTHING negative about a homo***ual, including preaching from
the pulpit.
John W
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>
> In <pi%jb.706$np1....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, on 10/17/2003
> at 11:53 PM, "Didymos" <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> A point of confusion on my part maybe, in the section showing his
retired
> [yeah, right]
>
> >"Andrew" <ah_m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >news:27eaec6.0310160720.48bf85a8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> <snip>
> >> > >
> >> > > Tom: Hey, don't forget the a-bomb that his buddy was making in
his
> >garage
> >> > > :-).
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > Come on, I can't list all of his lies, falsehoods, prevarications,
and
> >> > obfuscations. The use of that much bandwidth would be
unconscionable.
> >>
> >> Hmmmm, interesting developments on the church front. Apparently John
> >> is hawking in alt.military.uk looking for photographers. Guess his
> >> extensive network of "GI buddies" has let him down?? ;)
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/r5tq
> >>
> >> The fact that we already have email confirmation from the Lakenheath
> >> authorities concerning the non-existence of John's church seems to
be
> >> lost on him??
> >>
> >> Andrew
>
> >I think some of his lies are worth reposting . . . .so I will here and
at
> >another thread I will start. I cannot believe John W. posted these
> >flagrant lies . . . .
>
> >From http://tinyurl.com/r5tq:
>
> >I'm a vet of the VietNam conflict. I was stationed at Lakenheath,
> >Alconbury, Rhine Main, and Cigli briefly.
>
> >I'm looking for someone either at Lakenheath (preferred) or at
Alconbury
> >to do me a couple of favors that will be one fun Saturday afternoon
for
> >you. And you MIGHT learn something. You'll need a digital camera.
>
> >Thanks, and get back to me ASAP! I REALLY need this favor.
>
> >John Weatherly
> >AF11568395
> >ret'd E-5
> >11/67
>
> Right about here, he supposedly was born arong 46/47 & was drafted
> [guffaw] in 68?? Yes, no?? There is no way unless you are in combat to
> make E5 in the USAF in that short a period of time, & the only way to
> retire then would be medical. If it was mental, then he is still
subject
> to UCMJ under fraudulent enlistment [failure to reveal medicval
> pre-conditions of self & family members.]
>
> >(the year Martin and Bobby were shot.)
>
> >John W. . . . . when are you ever going to learn not to post blatant
> >lies. Let's just count the ones in those few little lines you posted
at
> >alt.military.uk.
>
> Never?
>
> >1. You, John W., are not "a vet of the VietNam conflict." He never
got
> >closer to Vietnam than the continental United States.
>
> >2. Nothing at "Lakenheath, Alconbury, Rhine Main, and Cigli briefly"
> >were even peripherally invovled in the Vietnam war. They were kind of
> >busy with NATO and cold war and Middle East war stuff.
>
> >3. Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy were not murdered in
1967,
> >John W.
>
> >4. Did you only retire as a staff sergeant, John W.? Why? Was your
> >performance that substandard? Or are you making that up in yet
another
> >vain attempt to lend credibility to your lies? Where do you draw your
> >pension from, John W.?
>
> Was he even in, I recall a 21 as being the claimed prefix, & the
military
> did not go to SSAN until 70/71ish. Definitely after 68, we had to
confirm
> them against IRS & SS admin. records, & you had to have one to join as
> early as 61.
>
> >Do I really, really need to watch my back now, Mr John W.? Are you
going
>
> Not really, I doubt there are interconnecting sewers between wherever
it
> is & where you are.
>
> >to sue me twice now, or just fold this into the suit your attorney is
> >already preparing against me for slander? I am just all atwitter and
> >anxious as I wait for the subpoena to be served. Oh, wait a minute,
> >wasn't that supposed to happen in July? Cancel the part about all
> >atwitter and anxious . . .
>
> You too, that is about 4 or 5 that I am aware of, do you think we
should
> pool our resources & hire Johnny Cochran?
>
> walksalone who can truthfully say he has doubted jw since about jws 4th
or
> 5th post, the one about the end of the world prohesy he saw come true,
> implying he was in the gulf war, stateing he helped the USAF re-write a
> 30k page maininance manual, & just generally having the ring of a lead
> quarter. He still has that ring every time he posts.
>
Didn't the 'scrambled one' post he never got above the apprentice
skill level in the 43x3x field? If so he more than likely was an
E3 tops, maybe E4 if promoted overseas? But what does ujb know
about JohnW (you may be surprized!)? :)
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On 12 Apr 2003 12:56:31 -0700, hunter77...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
>God sacrificed himself to himself so that he wouldnt have to send us
>to hell for our sins.
>
>
>Why does the Creator of reason insist that we bypass this crowning
>jewel
>of general reasoning and logic and adopt the irrational concept of
>sacrifice for salvation?
BTW, JUST so you know, you misspelled "Rationale" in your subject,
"God's Rational".
The word you used, "Rational" is like "He's a rational man, where
"rational" is an adjective. Incorrect. You don't modify a noun with
another noun.
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things". "God's" then becomes an adjective, modifying the noun
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On 12 Apr 2003 12:56:31 -0700, hunter77...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Truth Hunter)
wrote:
>God sacrificed himself to himself so that he wouldnt have to send us
>to hell for our sins.
>
>
>Why does the Creator of reason insist that we bypass this crowning
>jewel
>of general reasoning and logic and adopt the irrational concept of
>sacrifice for salvation?
BTW, JUST so you know, you misspelled "Rationale" in your subject,
"God's Rational".
The word you used, "Rational" is like "He's a rational man, where
"rational" is an adjective. Incorrect. You don't modify a noun with
another noun.
The word you wanted is "rationale", a noun, meaning "way of viewing
things". "God's" then becomes an adjective, modifying the noun
"rationale".
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>>On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:04:17 -0400, € <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:01:42 -0500, "Herman van den Hoven"
>>><herm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spake thusly in these here little old news 'froups:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"nobull" <bullnot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>news:93C065A43usersupernews@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> How come there are so many people in this group who are out for
>>>blood?
>>>>> Isn't this supposed to be a Christian news group? Why all the
>>>fighting
>>>>> between different religions? There are some here also who don't
>>>contibute
>>>>> anything to any topics, but they just post accusations about
>>>people. Is
>>>>> this a Christian group or isn't it?
And now, nobull, if you merely read Elaine's two responses, and mine
to her, you will see half a dozen of her lies and exaggerations. In
fairness, however, realize the woman is obsessive compulsive. She
can't help being an asshole. (What are MY credentials? I'm half-way to
a Masters in Psychology, eventually hoping to become a MFC (marriage
and family counselor).
God bless,
John W
>>>>
>>>>I agree. This seems to have deteriorated into a ba****ng group. And
>>>I
>>>>thought Baptists were reasonable god fearing people. I may have to
>>>rethink
>>>>my position.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>We ARE reasonable, and we ARE God-fearing people sir. The problem is
>>>the TROLLS are trying to take this group over, and THEY are not
>>>Baptists.
>>>They are letting on that they are, and tossing insults and false
>>>accusations left and right.
>>>
>>>If they told some lies and falsely accused you, would you not defend
>>>yourself?
>>
>>You need to watch the bearing false witness, Elaine. You're as guilty
>>as anyone.
>>
>>John W
>>
>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>JESUS is the ROCK<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
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> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 12 May 2003 06:21:22 -0400, "Susan Cohen" <flav...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
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>> >
>> >"John W" <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >news:c7mubvog7as883kgddiqggi0p4jd6shqeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Why must some put down other Christians who minister to a different
>> >> peoples in a different way???
>> >
>> >Why must bigots claim to be Jews & lie to Jews in order to get said
Jews
>to
>> >become heretics & apostates.
>> >>
>> >> I have friends who are of the Jews for Jesus sect.
>> >
>> >I couldn't have such shameful friends.
>> >
>> You are the shameful one. Every word you have uttered is a label and
>> shows your ignorance. And Jews who find the Jewish Messiah, Christ,
>> are NOT heretics and apostates.
>>
>---------
>Sorry, but they are. According to Jewish law and according to every
branch
>of Judaism, any Jew who believes in Jesus is a heretic and an apostate.
>Across the board, from the most Orthodox to the most liberal, all Jewish
>groups categorically reject the belief in Jesus as messiah as having any
>place in Judaism at all.
>Best regards,
>---Cindy S.
>
Another racist bigot heard from.
I'm sure Yahweh is VERY pleased with your arrogant misbehavior.
John W
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>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:51:46 GMT, "Didymoss" <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >
> >"sharon" <*...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >news:3041e7bf0891c58c9ca91089fb373070@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> I hope that I'm not going to make anyone angry.
> >>
> >> But I was curious what all the fuss was about, because my dad served
in
> >the
> >> Korean War (Naval officer)...and was still enlisted during the
Vietnam
> >War.
> >>
> >> Wow, you guys have been fussing over this a long time it appears.
> >>
> >Not a terribly big deal. I just see him lying about his service
record
> >every so often and remind him that his service in the Vietnam war is a
> >figment of his imagination.
>
>
> The liar is YOU, ****ymouse. And I have cleared up the many
> misunderstands your diseased brain has generated. You, however, prefer
> your obsessions to the truth.
>
> And you have FAILED to mention that you harrass/attempt to just for
> fun, that you have asked me VERY personal information, which is none
> of your damned business, and I have answered more than you or anyone
> else has a right to know, and then you come back with "liar, liar,
> liar, liar" (appears to be your favorite word), and then you ask MORE
> personal questions.
>
> If you didn't believe the first 95 answers, why would you believe the
> next 5?
>
> GFY.
>
> John W
>
The fact remains that you are not a veteran of the Vietnam war, you were
never "sent off to war," you did not serve in Vietnam or in direct
sup****t
of that war as determined by DoD and other service directives, you never
got
within thousands of miles of Vietnam, you never drew combat pay or
hazardous
duty or hostile fire pay, you were never even assigned to PACAF, much
less
7th or 13th Air Forces, MACV, JUSMAGTHAI, or any other operation
involving
that war.
> >
> >> I did some Google searching -- and this URL is what I came up with.
> >>
> >>
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22john+w%22.
+vietnam+war+typo&hl=en&lr=&
i
> >>
>
>e=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&c2coff=1&selm=FDu0b.359%24B8.52%
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> >> ink.net&rnum=1
> >>
> >>
> >> " > >> > That was before I was sent off to war. "
> >>
> >> If John W. wrote that, then I can understand why a Vietnam veteren
(one
> >who
> >> actually was in Vietnam) would be very upset... there would be a
> >difference
> >> between being drafted... and "sent off to war".
> >>
> >> "John W" <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> news:o6o4kvg4jkpmh9g80ubrviggtu7o3ci86e@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> > >"Didymos" <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> news:<ehf%a.23132$vo2.4522@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>...
> >> > >> "John W" <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> You were drafted into the Air Force? Precisely what year "in
the
> >late
> >> 60s"
> >> > >> did that event occur, Sir?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> My pastors were Dr. Walter Carpenter, a world
> >> > >> > famous Baptist theologian/Bible translator; Dr. Walter Pegg,
ditto;
> >> > >> > Dr. RB Culbreth, ditto; Dr. Stookey, ditto.
> >> > >> > That was before I was sent off to war.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Are you trying to imply, Mr John W., that you actually served
in a
> >> combat
> >> > >> zone during the Vietnam War? As I recall, neither RAF
Alconbury
nor
> >> RAF
> >> > >> Lakenheath nor even Izmir AFS were or are now in the Republic
of
> >> Vietnam,
> >> > >> nor Laos, nor Cambodia, nor the Kingdom of Thailand, nor in the
> >> contiguous
> >> > >> waters defined as qualifying for the award of the Vietnam
Service
> >Medal
> >> or
> >> > >> Armed Force Expeditionary Medal from 1961-1975. Where exactly
did
> >you
> >> go
> >> > >> when you were "sent off to war"?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> You see, Mr John W., some Vietnam veterans of my aquaintance
rather
> >> resent
> >> > >> folks who claim to be such when in fact they never got closer
than,
> >> say,
> >> > >> Alconbury or Izmir or Lackland.
> >>
> >>
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Note, Karen, she responded to YOU, not to me.
Note also that I pointed out unscriptural Roman teachings, and she
refused to answer. This is called the famous "Roman Catholic
dodge/sidestep."
John W
On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 11:43:13 -0400, "Scout Lady"
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>> Amen John
>>
>Translation - Amen to ignorance, hate mongering and the Baptist way.
>> --
>> Karen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "John W" <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:12:21 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>> > <bx3vmcd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >
>> > >
>> > >"Elaine" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > >news:pqdravgto6aakr24123ker5vitijpu5u3d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:02:33 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>> > >> <bx3vmcd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth
in
>> > >> these here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
>> > >>
>> > >> >>
>> > Show us Purgatory in the Bible. Show us where eating meat on Friday
is
>> > a sin. Show us where Paul or anyone else forbid the ministers to
take
>> > wives. Paul in fact said, "there are some among you who forbid some
to
>> > marry. Don't do that." You do it anyway.
>> >
>> > The 10 commandments say "no idols" (no graven image of man nor
beast),
>> > but YOU make excuses to put idols (graven images of men) in your
>> > churches and you bow and pray before them anyway.
>> >
>> >
>> > There are a few.
>> >
>> > Answer them out of the BIBLE, NOT "tradition."
>> >
>> > And PLEASE show me the Roman Catholic church in the Bible. I can
find
>> > the "Baptist", and I can find the "Church of Christ." The "Roman
>> > Catholic" appears nowhere.
>> >
>> > Please show me where Jesus or Paul or Peter authorized executing
>> > non-believers, yet Constantine started the Inquisition, in which he
>> > ordered the execution of anyone who would not convert to
Catholicism.
>> > this scourge included THOUSANDS of the remaining disciples of the
12.
>> >
>> > Is that a start?
>> >
>> > I've mentioned ALL these issues before, and you have sidestepped
them
>> > all or simply ignored them.
>> >
>> > John W
>> > >
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Your top posting and the fact that your post goes off my screen
renders it more trouble than it's worth.
John W
On Thu, 8 May 2003 22:18:49 -0500, "W. Michael Price"
<williampr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>I fear, sir, you have hardened your heart already to the truth. No
where, not one single scripture
in the Bible, does a 'Trinity" even come up. All you are doing is
perpetuating a tradition of men that is denying men and women all over
the world the truth of salvation and of the Word of God.
>Deuteronomy 6:4 clearly shows that God is one. All thoughout the Bible,
when it comes to God, it is
always in the singular form. Not some sort of council of beings making
up a God council. God is One, not separated, not distinct but united,
but One.
>For years, so many have been blinded to the truth. The Lord is now
opening eyes up to the fact of the Oneness of
God and Acts 2:38 salvation. Traditional trinitarian churches are
constantly renouncing Oneness without scripture. As I said in my
earlier post, when a man can no longer defend himself, sometimes he
will use insults and lies to make the opponent look bad. This is what
this seems to be to me. You call Oneness people cultists. Well, I
guess Jesus was a cultist, as was Paul, Thomas, Peter, and all those
in the Bible who followed the Word of God.
>God is One. Not three in one, and not three gods. He is One! And, to top
it all off, His name is Jesus.
Now, that is indeed part of the Bible, and is indeed what the Apostles
taught!
Indeed, they called Him, "Rabbi" and "Teacher" and "Lord" and "Jesus",
and "Messiah", and "you are the Christ, the Son of the Living God" and
"the Lamb of God".
John W
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On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:00:54 -0500, "Pro-Humanist FREELOVER"
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>---
> Rudolph motivated by beliefs, some say
> By Ken Garfield, Knight Ridder, 6/8/2003
> http://tinyurl.com/dsdv
>---
>
>Excerpts:
>
>The arrest of Eric Rudolph has evoked a frightening phrase:
>
>Christian terrorist.
>
>The man accused of bombing two abortion clinics, a gay
>nightclub, and an Olympic celebration in Atlanta wasn't just
>a madman allegedly acting out of rage. Police and specialists
>on religious hate crime in the United States believe that he
>was moved to act by his long embrace of a radical Christian
>movement that holds Jews, blacks, and gays to be less than
>human.
That is not Christian, and any honest person knows that. Name one
person Jesus killed. You are referring to the Old Covenant, and my
only response to THAT is, God gives; God takes away.
>
>Rudolph reads the same Bible as the average wor****per in
>the pew on Sunday morning, but he was a member of a loosely
>knit congregation whose creed leads to violence,
Then their creed was NOT Christian. Jesus said HE would come back and
re-claim the world for Himself; it does not belong to mankind to try
to "wrestle from Satan". We do our best to maintain it against
overwhelming evil. However, rescuing the earth is God's job. as for
the guy bombing an abortion clinic, God will deal with that, and the
human authorities will as well.
And any group that says that God's Chosen, the Jews, are less than
human is NOT Christian. So you can forget that mess. You are
attempting to prove guilt by association, yet you are the ONLY one
making the relation****p.
whose inter-
>pretation of God's word allegedly drove him to set off bombs
>and then flee into the North Carolina mountains. ...
Give us a break.
>
>- - - end excerpts - - -
>
>-----------------------------------
>
>Some comments:
>
>Generally speaking, the influence of religions on individuals,
>and on society in general, is considered to be a net "good" by
>many, in the modern day context.
it is. I can name you probably 25 hospitals Christians have built, and
as many universities.
The long historical record of
>religions, the anti-human aspects of ancient religious do***ents,
To lump all ancient religions together is shallow, unscholarly, and
disingenuous.
>and the anti-humanism promoted by some religions does bring
>that position of net "good" into question, however.
Again, the Christians can point to probably 25 famous hospitals we've
built, such as Memphis Baptist, in whose ER Elvis Presley was
pronounced dead.
>
>The core belief that sup****ts religion as a net "good", in the
>modern day, is closely tied to the teaching that God (or Allah)
>is "good" and that whatever God (or Allah) supposedly does,
>that's "good" no-matter-what.
That is not only a true statement, but God has HISTORICALLY (the
Jewish/Christian God) been good to His children and not so good to
those who reject Him.
And why should God be good to you? His sworn enemy? LOL!
You DO crack us up!
God bless, I have no more time for your BS Storm.
John W
Following that is the feeling, by
>many, that people who are genuinely in touch with the really
>"good" God (or Allah) are doing right, by God (or Allah).
>
>Unfortunately, just as helping the needy, loving one's spouse
>and family, and being nice to people can be credited to the
>supposed "good" God (or Allah), being hurtful to others can be
>induced or promoted under the general category of a "good"
>God (or Allah) invoking righteous justice or fighting "evil".
>
>For some religious followers, it's a small step from God (or
>Allah) torturing humans for eternity (an ancient religious belief
>still present in ancient foundational do***ents, and still be-
>lieved by many religious followers) to an individual using that
>(and many other aspects of religious condemnation, the dark
>side of faith, if you will) to attempt to justify harming humans
>in this life.
>
>~~~
> Pro-Humanist FREELOVER
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> (Freethinking Realist Exploring
> Expressive Liberty, Openness,
> Verity, Enlightenment, & Rationality)
>~~~
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On 12 Jul 2003 05:16:22 -0700, johnhenne...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(John Hennekes)
wrote:
>John W <joh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:
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>> On 10 Jul 2003 08:08:28 -0700, johnhenne...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(John Hennekes)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >John W <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:
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>> >> On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 11:42:16 +1100, grandnatio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(
>> >> Phar-Lap) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I have not seen one shred of evidence that Glossolallia - the
correct name
>> >> >for tongues -speaking is anything other than eccentric and often
quite
>> >> >silly behaviour, unless its appearance signifies severe brain
malfunction
>> >> >caused by mental illness , physical damage or drugs(including
alcohol).
>> >> >
>> >> >Get a person drunk enough and sometimes it will indeed appear -
exactly as
>> >> >in Churches. But I think that on such occassions what is
happening is
>> >> >very severe brain malfunction and possible actual damage
>> >> >
>> >> >Quite frightening to see actually. But if you hang round very
severe
>> >> >alcoholics you will likely come across tongues speaking
occassionally.
>> >> >
>> >> >Tongues are nothing to do with the Holy Spirit - it is a myth
transferred
>> >> >into Christianity (and some Judaic prohecy) largely from paganism.
>> >>
>> >> That's hilarious, since I HAVE heard of legitimate tongues
happening
>> >> in some cases. Why would the Holy Spirit come into a person and
give
>> >> them a foreign language with which to preach the gospel? This has
>> >> happened a number of times, and there are even books written about
the
>> >> phenomenon.
>> >
>> >John W, you would be better off to stop contradicting yourself,
>> >likewise, your habit of accusing others for only using selective
>> >verses when, in fact, you do the same thing. You're on public record
>> >for having said:
>> >
>> >April 27, 2001 Subject: Re: Tongues-speaking NOT required
>> >
>> >[Of course "tongues-speaking" is not required. Neither does it occur.
>> >Tongues ceased in the 1st century, as predicted by Paul in 1
>> >Corinthaians. "Where there are prophesies, they shall cease, where
>> >there are tongues, they will cease; where there is knowledge, it will
>> >pass." 1 Corinthians 14
>> >
>> >John Weatherly]
>> >
>> >---Note: it's 1 Corintians 13:8 to which you were referring to, not 1
>> >Corinthians 14---
>> >
>> >August 15, 2002 Subject: Re: Babbling is NOT Tongues
>> >
>> >[Amen. "Pentecostal believers" open their mouths and gibberish comes
>> >out. I can make gibberish. What's the miracle?
>> >
>> >"Pentecostal believers" fall down and call it God. I can fall down. I
>> >don't call it God.
>> >
>> >And, IF tongues are REAL today, where are the tongues of fire?
Where's
>> >the mighty ru****ng wind? How come no foreign-born Christians hear
>> >languages they speak? THAT is the gift of tongues.
>> >Also, 1 Cor 13 says "tongues will cease, knowledge will pass away,
>> >prophesies will cease, miracles will cease." They all ceased. 1st
>> >century.
>> >I don't see blindness healed in c/p services, I don't see broken legs
>> >healed, I don't see withered limbs restored.
>> >Even the APOSTLES healed. Where are the healings today? They aren't
>> >happening.
>> >
>> >What you are doing is NOTHING but the power of suggestion. And it
>> >doesn't honor God.
>> >
>> >John Weatherly]
>> >
>> >December 7, 2001 Subject: Re: {James'} tongues equals Holy Spirit
>> >
>> >[Hog Wash.
>> >You've invented a "miracle" to legitimize a c/p CULT. Scripture is
>> >CRYSTAL CLEAR that tongues, prophesy, and knowledge would all cease
in
>> >the 1st century. "When that which is perfect is come, the imperfect
>> >[gifts] will pass away!" The "perfect" came in the completion of the
>> >Bible.
>> >
>> >Repent or perish!
>> >
>> >John Weatherly
>> >john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >There's more, but these will suffice for now. So, you're on record
>> >for having stated that prophecies, tongues and knowledge are things
of
>> >the past, and you used 1 Corinthians 13:8 as your proof. Either the
>> >gifts of the Holy Spirit are still being meted out or they're not.
>> >Pick one or the other since you cannot have it both ways.
>>
>> You need to take some remedial reading. I said the "tongues" that the
>> Pretenders use are phony. I said that 1 Cor 13 says the SIGN gifts.
>> would cease. They did.
>>
>> Paul said the sign gifts, tongues, knowledge, and prophesy would cease
>> once the "Perfect" came. The "perfect" came in the form of God's Holy
>> Word., which is perfect. And which was completed by Paul's own
>> account, in the 1st century. Since he is ALREADY saying, in 1 Cor 13,
>> "When I was a (spiritual) child, I spoke as a child( tongues), I
>> understood as a child... when I became a man (spiritual adult)I put
>> away childish things (the sign gifts) In the context, it couldn't
>> mean anything else.
>
>Yes, your view is one interpretation, but there are others, as well.
>Here's mine, which is shared by certain Theologians, and you know this
>from your own seminary training. Paul wrote 1 Cor. 13:8-10 in the
>future tense for a reason, and your own remedial reading of the NIV
>will bear this out. Yes, Paul did say that tongues, knowledge and
>prophesy WOULD cease, but he NEVER said that they HAD ceased, only
>that they WOULD cease. You're basing your arguement on what you think
>(or were taught) is the meaning in verse 11, where Paul momentarily
>****fts from future to past tense, to illustrate his point that our
>time here on earth is identified as spiritual immaturity,
That is ONE point of view. However, since both Jesus AND Paul
commanded that we be mature, I believe it is possible to achieve
spiritual maturity in our lifetime. It is MY "branch's" POV that when
one has reached "5 years old in Christ", he is mature enough to not
need "the childish things" anymore.
You are also neglecting the stated purpose of the sign gift, and that
was accomplished in the 1st C.
"So that all men will know that you are mine, and so that you can
speak with the authority of God.."
John w
thus the
>need for tem****al and supernatural help for the chosen ones. Verse 12
>then sees a transition back from present to future tense (now and
>then), when there's no longer a need for the tem****al sign gifts.
>They will no longer be needed in the place of perfection (heaven),
>where, of course, we will see...what...the Lord, face to face.
>
>As for your assumption that "perfect" is the finished form of the
>Bible, cite the place that says this is so, or that it will be so.
>You CANNOT. If you could, then you'll have no problem, whatsoever, in
>citing the verses, but as I suspect, you'll only respond back with
>vague arguements, having no real substance for sup****t, much like your
>allegation that Jesus was quoted by biblical scholars as having called
>folks, "A__hole".
>
>Of course, you could try to blow me off again, as you've tried before,
>by telling me to research the modern critical editions of the Hebrew,
>Aramaic, and Greek texts: "Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia" (BHS) for
>the OT and the "Nestle-Aland" (26th edition) or United Bible
>Societies' (3d edition) "Greek New Testament" (GNT), to which I'd only
>reply that there's no need for that as many Bible interpreters simply
>do not have the language skills to read these do***ents either, so we
>must, therefore, all rely on the Scriptures, which have been
>translated, already, into our own native tongues. Furthermore, since
>you (by your own admission) can't even understand the archaic language
>of the KJV, I doubt, very much, whether you have had the proper
>training to now comprehend the even more archaic languages of the
>Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek sources, which were mentioned above;
>consequently, your citing the Bible as what was meant as the perfect
>to come can only come from your NIV. If it's there, you'll easily
>prove it. Good luck.
>
>John Hennekes
>
>> John W
>>
>> >
>> >John H
>> >
>> >> Your problem Phar Lap, is that your concept of God never got as big
as
>> >> Yhwh is.
>> >>
>> >> You like to keep your god in a matchbox so you can look at it and
play
>> >> with it.
>> >>
>> >> The God of the Bible has proven Himself to be Omnipotent,
Omnipresent,
>> >> and Omniscient.
>> >>
>> >> John W
>> >> >
>> >> >Outside America it is mostly frowned upon and put with cla****ng
cymbals,
>> >> >handling s****s, fraudulent healing, fraudulent "deliverances" and
the
>> >> >rest of the superstitious crap coming from Stateside as the result
of
>> >> >chronically low education standards and chronically high levels of
>> >> >stupidity and superficiality..
>> >>
>> >> Simply because the Satanic, demonic imitate the gift of tongues
>> >> doesn't negate the real thing. (You know ALL about the Satanic and
the
>> >> demonic, don't you, demon?) ;-)
>> >>
>> >> That's as simple minded as claiming that there is no such thing as
>> >> real fur merely because you've only seen the fake stuff.
>> >>
>> >> That's like claiming there is no leather because your shoes are
>> >> plastic.
>> >>
>> >> John W
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >+
>>
>>
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From: John W <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Subject: Re: The truth
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Evolution doesn't work. Period. It can't. That's been CLEARLY
demonstrated.
Ask about the fairy tale and the can of tuna fish, both proofs that
evolution dosen't/can't happen.
John w
On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 15:31:20 -0500, Adam H.
<ahotc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 15:19:10 -0500, "Bill K." <bil...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>wrote:
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>>In article <7gm2vucu2eghui4gtibkuhjqnvscmlu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Adam H."
>><ahotc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>>Crossbreeding is not an example of evolution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If it results in a new species, then yes, it is. The fact that you
don't
>>> understand how evolution works doesn't make it any less valid.
>>
>>If evolution had to rely on cross-breeding, it wouldn't have gotten
very
>>far.
>
>Did I say anywhere that was the only mechanism by which evolution
>works?
>
>Learn something about it first.
>
>---
>
>"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation."
>-Pierre Trudeau, 1967
It doesn't matter that you stand your ground If the ground you stand on
doesn't matter...
"You don't break God's laws; they break you."
Charlie Shedd
In Christ,
John WFrom: John W <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:30:37 +1100, Melbourne...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
( Phar
Lap) wrote:
>In article <j5akmv0ge2ig0cqh53v0123nt4crmg7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, John W
><john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
As I have said repeatedly, AH, watch your back. Someone with an anger
problem who is less tolerant of gooney birds such as you, may hurt
you.
John W
>
>> On 15 Sep 2003 10:20:00 -0700, thersim...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> (thersim...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) wrote:
>>
>> >Melbourne...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
( Phar Lap) wrote in message
>news:<Melbournecup-1409030922010001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>...
>> >> By the way I post on Newsgroups
>> >>
>> >> I NEVER send emails to members of such groups
>> >>
>> >> So I don't entirely know what you are talking about
>> >
>> >
>> >I know what you mean Phar lap. I even keep my email blocked.
>>
>>
>> Phar is a liar. I remember because he e-mailed me right after walks
>> did. I deleted both unread.
>>
>>
>> John W
>
>
>John I have never and will never email anyone on a bulletin board
>newsgroup such as this
>
>I would especially NOT email the likes of you who show clear signs of
>uncontrolled schizophrenia to the point of insanity, combined with
extreme
>delusions of persecution, hallucinations of demonic possession and an
>apparent likeng for handguns - combined itself with a clear love of neo
>nazi extremism
>
>I ask anyone here to form their own judgement - Is it really likely
>someone like me would email a lunatic like you? I think not
>
>If you have been receiving emails in my name I apologise. NONE
originate
>from me or from my computer.
>
>Please get some urgent medical treatment
>
>You do not need to be either this ill or this out of control. I do not
>dislike you - I feel extremely sorry for you. You desperately need help
>and someone isn't facing up to their responsibility to bring you to such
>help.
>
>I cannot urge you strongly enough to go and get some help. It is as
>simple as walking in a psychiatrists office and telling him the truth -
>demons, paranoia, ****ography(if appropriate) and all
>
>
>
>
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In alt.talk.creationism, John W <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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>On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:06:51 -0500, David Jensen
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>>>On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:12:14 +1100, Canterb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
( oz)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <l6vgovktofgn2ddf6jsmuqqh0r77dbg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, John
>>>><john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Watch your back!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John W
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ah the threats again
>>>
>>>What threats? When I see someone in mortal danger, it is my belief
>>>that I must warn him.
>>
>>Really? "Watch your back" seems much more like a threat that you
>>personally intend to carry out. It doesn't at all sound like the
>>traditional hellfire warning of self-righteous pseudo-Christians.
>>
>>>>watch out he may be about to empty his potty on your head
>>>
>>>If I knew this person, that would hardly be an effective resolution.
>>
>>Then why make the threats?
>
>Again, what threats? I haven't posted any threats since I threatened
>to smack Phar Lap (he deserved it) and then I apologized.
>
"Watch your back!" is a threat.
>
>>>>When will we quit?
>>>>
>>>>When the Scrambled One stops bullying
>>>
>>>At least your belly isn't too low to the ground for you to stoop and
>>>sling insults.
>>>
>>>And if you do that with people who know you, you need to
>>>watch YOUR back!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>And when he stops using claims of demonic interference from us all
to
>>>>avoid treatment for his personal mental illness
>
>No, no no no. I don't call people "demoniacs" if they aren't acting
>like demoniacs.
>
>You kind of have to know what you're looking for.
>
>>>
>>>I'm getting treatment; you obviously need it, and you are in denial.
>>>You know, it's not a crime to admit you need a psychiatrist. And you
>>>DO!
>>
>>It seems that you need to bring your mental health professional copies
>
>And now you need to explain to me why exactly I would listen to YOU?
I'm convinced that you won't listen to me, after all, you repeat
falsehoods and refuse to acknowledge your error, make absurd claims and
lose your temper when they are questioned, and make threats and refuse
to acknowledge that they are threats.
>LOL! You crack me up!
>
>BTW, you know, if you keep up this verbal abuse for another 25 or 30
>years, you're gonna start pissing me off.
What abuse? I point out the falsehoods you present.
>>of the last hundred posting you made, so he can understand what kind of
>>help he needs to offer you.From: John W <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Patience, oh, skeptic! Patience!
John W
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 04:13:46 GMT, Ghostman <ghost...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>One fine day in alt.atheism, VernonOJ fired a few neurons and wrote
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