???
As if what he accuses us of is something we'd deny??
john
w
>
>So again I point out that I have never posted on Usenet with anything
>other than my normal identity. I have not hid behnd pseudonyms and
>about the only thing that has changed has been my email address since
>I've used about 3 or 4 different ISP's since I started using computer
>communications requiring a service provider many, many years ago. As I
>stated before, I couldn't care less if you believe it or not. I still
>invite you and anyone else who wishes to, to visit my website and my
>blog for whatever it's worth.
>
>May God bless,
>Carl
>my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
>my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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Subject: Re: The reason the Trinity doctrine is a LIE
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:49:41 -0700, Raymond <rwknapp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Jul 14, 7:10 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yesOn Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:28:46 -0500, Jim <J...
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>
>> >Trinitarian dogma posits that God exists in three persons. The reason
the
>> >Trinity doctrine is a lie is because three persons constitute three
different
>> >identities - whereas scripture says God is one - and anything that is
"one"
>> >can only be one identity. Hence - Trinitarians are not really
Christians at
>> >all - but they are in fact polytheists who have wormed their way into
the
>> >church. (see Mat 7:15, 2 Cor 11:13, 2 Pet 2:1, 2 Pet 2:13)
>>
>> It is good when we don't try to define Theological concepts like God
>> too closely. It is good when we let scripture speak for itself.
>>
>> Scripture describes God as being God the Father, God the Son, and God
>> the Holy Spirit. Yet scripture also says that God is One.
>> Leaving us an enigma.
>
>Please give the location of the words "God the Son or God the Holy
>Spirit" even one verse would prove your point.
As I have said many times, Ray, I won't discuss theology with you.
>
>>
>> "The Holy Trinity" is one of man's failed attempts-- one of the better
>> ones, but only a failed ATTEMPT-- to adequately describe "Who and What
>> God Is" to a world of humans who "will never quite get it."
>
>I can agree with that remark.
>
>>
>> I would try to not take my self too seriously / or anyone else, for
>> that matter / who tries to give "the definitive definition" for who
>> God is.
>
>Then just accept JESUS as your LORD and the rest will work itself out
>in time.
Not necessarily. You seem to "accept Jesus as your Lord", but when
we define terms, you don't even believe in the same Jesus I believe
in.
Your Jesus is NOT 2nd person of the Holy Trinity.
john w
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Liar Weatherless insists he's committed 'no crime'...
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:56:47 -0700
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wrote:
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>On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:06:51 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>wrote:
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>>x-no-archive: no - refused permission.
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>>On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:40:20 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:38:49 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>So I am very selective in what I answer, and in WHO I answer.
>>>
>>>
>>>The CORRECT terminology would be 'TO WHOM I ANSWER', O wannabe
>>>writer...
>>
>> The correct terminology would be "Oh, want-to-be-a writer!"
>Wrong.
> The CORRECT terminology would be 'TO WHOM I ANSWER', O wannabe
>writer...
> The subject is CLOSED.
What you MEANT to say was, "I Elaine Matthews DEMAND the last word!"
smirk.
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Subject: Re: Liar Weatherless insists he's committed 'no crime'...
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:55:41 -0700
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>On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:05:38 -0400, "Scout Lady"
><scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>><larry4355@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:47:52 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>><larry4355@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:04:12 -0500, CB <country2000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:25:15 -0400, larry4355@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:28:42 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:41:14 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nay! Don't give him too much credit.
>>>>>>>>> He comes in here only to make noise.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Like 'you', weatherless?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I call him "Tweety." Noisy and silly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>john w
>>>>>>>>And many of US call 'you:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>liar-johnnie
>>>>>>>>sun****ne-boi
>>>>>>>>qwene liar
>>>>>>>>St. ****o
>>>>>>>>papa-****
>>>>>>>>short-bus johnnie
>>>>>>>>numbnuts
>>>>>>>>The Seattle Psycho
>>>>>>>>The Wa****ngton Wanker
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>among other delightful nicknames you've earned all by yourself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And this makes you Christian how?
>>>>>>>And this brings honor and glory to God how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How you been mr self righteousness?
>>>>>>PLease tell us of all your Christian works and how only you glorify
>>>>>>God.
>>>>>
>>>>> Little do you realize, I do not need to point to all my Christian
>>>>> works (brag), for that would only be pointing to me and trying to
>>>>> bring glory to myself. So you have no need to know what Christian
>>>>> works I do, God knows, and that is all that matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> But on the other hand what Elaine is doing is not bringing honor to
>>>>> God at all in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>>God does need mere mortals to bring Him honor Larry, all Glory and
Honor
>>>>are
>>>>already His forever and ever.
>>>
>>> You have a point here Scout. And I agree Glory and Honor are His
>>> already. But I am sure you know what I meant by bring honor and glory
>>> to God by our actions. If we confess to be Christians should not act
>>> like it. Should we not show the love of Christ that is in us. Or do
we
>>> continue to fight and argue like the non believers do.
>>
>>Nonbelievers don't fight, they are united in their disbelief.
Christians are
>>suppose to be united in Christ but it doesn't work out that way because
>>despite belief in One God there are millions of versions of God and
everyone
>>thinks that their version is the correct one.
>
>
>I agree with all of your above post accept one thing. I have seen a
>lot of nonbelievers fight with believers. So in a way they do fight.
>:)
>
>>
>>You pick out Elaine time after time but what about John? Shouldn't he
be
>>showing the love of Christ?
>
>Yes he should. Does he? I would have to say no. But like you said who
>does.
>
>
>>
>>> I am not saying we will always agree on everything, but it is
possible
>>> to disagree and be civil towards one another. Even in this newsgroup
>>> we believers should be showing the love of Christ even in our
answers.
>>>
>>Since that isn't happening across the board I have to ask why it is
always
>>Elaine that you single out.
>
>
>Good question. I believe Elaine starts most of the arguments. But I do
>not have all the figures on the battles between the two. But if Elaine
>believes John has mental issues, how is what she doing helping him?
>How is what she is doing showing the Love of Christ? (and what I mean
>what she is doing, name calling, laughing at him, siding with non
>believers against him, etc. etc. etc.)
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> >Is not showing a good Christian example in
>>>>> my opinion. In fact is doing just the opposite.
>>>>
>>>>Who here is showing a good Christian example?
>>>>
>>> Not many but there are some. But maybe the question should be instead
>>> of Who here is showing, am I showing a good Christian example?
>>>
>>Have you ever read the passage that says the spirit is willing but the
flesh
>>is weak?
>>
>Yep sure have.
Larry, if I may, I believe you are making a HUGE mistake here. You
are attempting to correct someone (Cathy) who rejects all correction.
Jesus said to not correct those who reject correction.
john w
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: St ****o injured in fish and chip shop incident
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>On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:21:32 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
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>>
>>Why don't you just killfile him and be done with it?
>>
>> Why don't you killfile me and be done with it?
>>
>> My answer: Because you both entertain me!
>>
>> john w
>
>Moron, all you've done is use other people's lines to cover up your
>own insanity.
> Why can't YOU kill file anyone?
>I KNOW why- you're too paranoid, and you figure everyone is in on some
>crazy form of 'conspiracy'!
Well, I'm not all that concerned with conspiracies.
I know YOU for one are incapable (not smart enough) for
"conspiracies."
;-)
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Subject: Re: Here's an idea John....
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>> Rod is knocking on doors asking for apples. He's collecting apples
>> for the hungry.
>> I answer, "I don't have any apples, but I can make you a nice sign
>> that you can put on your car, asking for apples, and one you can hang
>> on your neck asking for apples."
>> I can also make a nice audio for you, so you don't wear out your
>> voice."
>>
>> Rod says, "NO! Try to stay focused! I asked for apples, not signs
>> or audio loops!"
>>
>> I say, "And I said, I don't have apples, but I am offering what I
>> have."
>>
>> Rod says, if you cared, you'd give me some apples.
>>
>> I say, "I have no apples to give you!"
>>
>> Rod says "You are heartless and cruel. And if you don't give me what
>> I asked you for, I'm just gonna get mad!"
>>
>You ought to add philosopher to your list of professions John.
What makes you think that I've given my life story in here?
???
john w
>
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Subject: Re: Test test test
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:11:27 -0700
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:20:37 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>testing testing testing
One two three.
For what i's worth.
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Subject: Re: It truly amazes me (and sickens me at the same time)...
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 06:37:19 -0700
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:42:00 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Jul 13, 10:25 pm, Rod <kc0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
><nothing of any value. therefore, it's been snipped>
>
>Guess I hit that proverbial nail.
There you go, "Rev!" No one gets YOU, but you get EVERYBODY!
eh heh
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: It truly amazes me (and sickens me at the same time)...
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 06:36:33 -0700
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:07:09 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Jul 13, 9:40 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Put it this way, Kelly:
>> If you read approximately 1 % of BB's posts, you might find
>> yourself 100 times LESS concerned with his insane rantings.
>>
>> The people you are criticizing for not getting on BB's case are
>> people -- like me-- who LONG ago gave BB over to his INSANITY.
>>
>> I don't constantly rant about BB because I know what he is, and I
>> don't waste my time with what he writes.
>>
>> I also long ago stopped reading 95 % of YOUR stuff because I knew it
>> would accomplish NOTHING for me to stay all riled up at YOU!
>>
>> I just have much better uses of my time and energy (valuable
>> resources) than to spend MOST of my day reading BB's posts-- OR yours!
>>
>> Pardon me for not crying over spilt milk; I didn't spill it!
>
>"Words of wisdom" from the man who is a textbook example of
>narcissistic pathology.
Your "response", basically a textbook case of "sour grapes" is a good
example of why I read so little of your posts or BB's.
Rather than you trying to glean SOMETHING from my post (which you
just read), you attack me.
You want comments from everyone. But when someone DOES comment (and
says somthing OTHER than "I know, BB is TERRIBLE!", you get pissed
off.
You label me just for commenting!
You also STUPIDLY comment that you are a trained, qualified
psychiatrist fully capable of diagnosing me over the internet.
(You're not, and I'm not a narcissist.)
"Can't win" if we post to you, so most of us don't.
john w
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Here's an idea John....
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:49:52 -0700
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:16:57 GMT, Gregory A Greenman <see@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
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>In article <NAQli.18888$Rw1.17524@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> declared...
>> john w <johnw wrote:
>> > x-no-archive: yes
>> > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:59:10 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>> > may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>> >>
>> >> John, if you have so much trouble with what I say, then do as Robyn
>> >> suggested and don't read my posts ! Kill file me and forget it !
Just
>> >> a friendly reminder that you always have a choice !
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rod
>> >
>> > You might JUST consider one issue, Rod.
>> >
>> > Robyn isn't trying to help. She's an obnoxious atheist/witch
troll
>> > who is a busy-body and who is in here attempting to do one thing:
>> > stir things up.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, I was actually-- as little as I think of you --
>> > trying to do something nice and HELP you.
>> >
>> > You have AGAIN made it quite clear that you aren't interested in
>> > "help", particularly if it's in ANY form that *I* might offer.
>> >
>> >
>> > Let's say you drive your car off the road into a levy and you find
>> > yourself over your head in water and sinking fast. The last thing
you
>> > do is yell for help, and I happen to hear you.
>> >
>> > As I go into action, attempting to do something nice, to help save
>> > your life, you notice it's me.
>> >
>> > You say, "Never mind! I'll figure something ELSE out! You can be
on
>> > your way!"
>> >
>> > You wouldn't accept my help if you were drowning!
>> >
>> > "Fair enough."
>> >
>> > As for not reading your posts, I'll read what I please.
>> >
>> > Which leaves you a choice. You can choose to not read my posts.
>> >
>> > I also note that Robyn didn't offer any constructive solutions
>> > herself; all she offers is criticism.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > I am also not having problems with what you say; I'd say the
reverse
>> > is true.
>> > I say "A", you perceive "Z", "R," and "Q,".
>> >
>> >
>> > john w
>> >
>> >
>>
>> While you are mulling over who is in distress they may be drowning.
No
>> matter who it is I am not waiting for your permission to pull you
out,
>> I'm coming in and we're going out together. I couldn't live with
>> myself if I let someone die because of hate or selfishness.
>>
>> Your post reveals a lot about your nature, and if you have to stop
>> and think about who it is you may be saving then you might as well
>> throw your bible away because it won't do you any good.
>>
>> Now if you can't understand what i just said, and do it correctly,
>> then call your nurse and have them read it to you word by word.
>
>
>
>What you just said is that you didn't understand his post, like,
>at all. Wow.
Precisely!
Rod is knocking on doors asking for apples. He's collecting apples
for the hungry.
I answer, "I don't have any apples, but I can make you a nice sign
that you can put on your car, asking for apples, and one you can hang
on your neck asking for apples."
I can also make a nice audio for you, so you don't wear out your
voice."
Rod says, "NO! Try to stay focused! I asked for apples, not signs
or audio loops!"
I say, "And I said, I don't have apples, but I am offering what I
have."
Rod says, if you cared, you'd give me some apples.
I say, "I have no apples to give you!"
Rod says "You are heartless and cruel. And if you don't give me what
I asked you for, I'm just gonna get mad!"
john w
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Here's an idea John....
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:46:20 -0700
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:42:37 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:59:10 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
>>> John, if you have so much trouble with what I say, then do as Robyn
>>> suggested and don't read my posts ! Kill file me and forget it ! Just
>>> a friendly reminder that you always have a choice !
>>>
>>>
>>> Rod
>>
>> You might JUST consider one issue, Rod.
>>
>> Robyn isn't trying to help. She's an obnoxious atheist/witch troll
>> who is a busy-body and who is in here attempting to do one thing:
>> stir things up.
>>
>> On the other hand, I was actually-- as little as I think of you --
>> trying to do something nice and HELP you.
>>
>> You have AGAIN made it quite clear that you aren't interested in
>> "help", particularly if it's in ANY form that *I* might offer.
>>
>>
>> Let's say you drive your car off the road into a levy and you find
>> yourself over your head in water and sinking fast. The last thing you
>> do is yell for help, and I happen to hear you.
>>
>> As I go into action, attempting to do something nice, to help save
>> your life, you notice it's me.
>>
>> You say, "Never mind! I'll figure something ELSE out! You can be on
>> your way!"
>>
>> You wouldn't accept my help if you were drowning!
>>
>> "Fair enough."
>>
>> As for not reading your posts, I'll read what I please.
>>
>> Which leaves you a choice. You can choose to not read my posts.
>>
>> I also note that Robyn didn't offer any constructive solutions
>> herself; all she offers is criticism.
>>
>> --
>>
>> I am also not having problems with what you say; I'd say the reverse
>> is true.
>> I say "A", you perceive "Z", "R," and "Q,".
>>
>>
>> john w
>>
>>
>
> While you are mulling over who
If I hadn't made it clear the other day, there really isn't
anything else you need to say to me.
And please don't ASSUME (you're SO good at that) that I read what
you had to say this time.
You start off with accusing me yet again:
"While you are mulling..."
I'm not mulling anything. You have ASSUMED on me, and you are
again lying.
john w
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: free.christians,alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: It truly amazes me (and sickens me at the same time)...
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:40:55 -0700
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:30:26 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>I am amazed at the number of "good Christians" here who continually
>harass the same people over and over, day after day, and dissect
>every jot and tittle they post while never writing a word of protest
>regarding the foul, disgusting posts that come from the mind of
>"Bible" Bob Sowle.
>
>Here are some examples of Bob's sick mind that none of you ever call
>him on:
>
>"What about your spiritual homo***ual relation****p with Satan? What's
>that stuff dripping from your mouth and butt that we see everytime you
>post to Usenet?"
Put it this way, Kelly:
If you read approximately 1 % of BB's posts, you might find
yourself 100 times LESS concerned with his insane rantings.
The people you are criticizing for not getting on BB's case are
people -- like me-- who LONG ago gave BB over to his INSANITY.
I don't constantly rant about BB because I know what he is, and I
don't waste my time with what he writes.
I also long ago stopped reading 95 % of YOUR stuff because I knew it
would accomplish NOTHING for me to stay all riled up at YOU!
I just have much better uses of my time and energy (valuable
resources) than to spend MOST of my day reading BB's posts-- OR yours!
Pardon me for not crying over spilt milk; I didn't spill it!
john w
>
>"Maybe you should see a doctor and get some pills; or, maybe a pump up
>*****, or maybe a strap on dildo."
>
>"Do you clean the dildo before you use it? Taking it from your anus
>and putting it in your mouth may causes bad breath and an infection
>of
>the brain. The brain infection might cause you to talk **** and
>behave strange in public forums. I suspect that impotence is the
>reason you use a dildo. Try mixing a little bleach and amonia with
>six Viagra and then inhale the fumes."
>
>"When you strap on your dildo and go hunting for your god and don't
>get the job done, you feel bad an[d] unsatisfed."
>
>"The difference between you and I in this case is that I say what God
>says and you say what Satan says...It doesn't matter to you what God
>wants so long as you can keep your tongue and dildo in motion to
>satisfy your lusts of the flesh...You can tell the difference between
>your gods and God by checking to see if they have breasts and a
>vagina."
>
>"You say Rod deny's the existence of God and Christ's Lord****p. But
>that is just more lying from your fishy smelling lying lips."
>
>"You sure do know a lot about swallowing and anal *** and the like...
>Have you noticed any sores or bumps in your mouth or anus?
>How about under that brown stuff on your nose? Has a rash developed
>there?"
>
>"When you're having one of your little fits, does blood actually spray
>from your anus, or is it more of a trickle?"
>
>"Is it anything like the apostate wolf in sheep's clothings alien anal
>probe denomination?"
>
>"Anal attentivness does help some men get their freak on."
>
>"I still haven't figured out what HMFIC stands for. Let's see if I
>can
>figure it out. Probably somthing stupid like Homo MF In Charge."
>
>"If I am away from town on a trip is it wrong for me to wack off while
>lusting after my wife?"
>
>"I can't resist the temptation. You said 'oral *** with one's wife
>is
>a sin similarly.' What if she swallows?"
>
>You all have time to pick on John Weatherly with gusto and
>regularity. You demean and slam those you see as different from you.
>None of you call "Bible" Bob on *any* of this stuff. Why is that?
>Maybe you don't come out against because he's *not* any different than
>you all. Regardless, from where I sit your silence equals condoning
>and acceptance of his sick statements.
>
>And that makes you just as guilty as he is.
>
>I know that a number of you will retort back with reference to my
>***uality (many of you are nothing if not predictible) and try to
>dismiss my words here in order to invalidate this post. I don't
>really care. But if you do, consider this: if I were a hetero***ual
>posting this, would you see Bob's statements above to be any more
>disgusting and repugnant and completely inappropriate in a Christian
>forum?
>
>Go figure (to borrow a phrase from another poster).
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Subject: Re: An example of BB's "spiritual discernment"
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:30:20 -0700
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:03:57 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:42:04 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:25:12 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> <~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 11, 1:08 pm, "Rod" <kc0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm not certain that you are Christian, I'm
>>>>>>> definitely not
>>>>>> Here's another perfect testimony to "Bible" Bob's spiritual
>>>>>> discernment...
>>>>> No Kelly, it's a testimony about your refusal to speak all the
truth,
>>>> Some truth to that!
>>>>
>>>>> and about an op****tunity for you to tear into another human being
>>>>> when you have an axe to grind.
>>>> ???? So, Rod, are you saying that ^ ^ is only ok when YOU do
>>>> it?
>>> Not at all ! It's another natural consequence, action and reaction,
>>> it just isn't all right to deny it when YOU know for fact that is
your
>>> main motive for doing it.
>>
>> You need to go back and re-read what you just said! What you have
>> just said is that *I* don't know why I said what I said, but YOU DO!
>>
>> That's called "delusional thinking."
>>
>> I know precisely why I say what I say.
>>
>> And if that's the sort of "lie" you're accusing me of, you are quite
>> psychotic!
>
> Confused anyway.....but I've been talking with you.
You give so many people such good reasons to not communicate with you
at all.
Seems you are so much more interested in alienating people by running
at the mouth than you are in communicating and resolving issues.
Bye bye!
I'd like to say it's fun, but I don't lie.
>
>
> Rod
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Subject: Re: HOW CAN JESUS BE GOD?
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:26:58 -0700
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:31:31 -0700, r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(•R L Measures) wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <4ioe93928slbu4v4vbcqji3il20ct7edkm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:21 -0700, r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(•R L Measures) wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>> >In article <hnkd93hbfdr5qo9e942ktqh792jsu18jlv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> ><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >> >** It is my opinion that none of the presently accepted
>scriptures that
>> >> >> >comprise the NT were written by an apostle of the itinerant 1st
century
>> >> >> >rabbi who called himself "the Son of man."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >** "Unlearned in history, they allow themselves to be governed
by the
>> >> >> >Unknown Past."
>> >> >> >Historian John Acton
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then you, and the "historian" would both be wrong!
>> >> >>
>> >> >** Whistling in the dark.
>> >>
>> >> I still trust my sources more than yours.
>> >> I wonder if your "historian", "John Acton" reads Hebrew or
Greek.
>> >> I bet he does not!
>> >
>> >• Acton's aphorism was not specific, it applied to all those who
allow
>> >themselves to be goverened without investigating things. At one
time, I
>> >presumed that the book of John was written by the disciple John and
that
>> >the book of Matthew was written by the disciple Matthew, but I no
longer
>> >believe they were.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> And yet, I DO know that many Bible scholars DO accept the author****p
>> of 99% of the books as it is recorded in those books.
>>
>> It's a very modern, very liberal view to believe that those whose
>> names are attached didn't write the books attributed to them.
>
>• One clue is the title page of Matthew and the title page of John.
>Also, the presence of syntax ****fts suggest either that it was written
by
>one author with multiple personality disorder, or it was written by more
>than one author.
Very old, very dusty attack, raised from the dead by those who wish to
attack the Bible.
yawn.
Point made, point already responded to.
>>
>> And the view has but one goal. To discredit the Bible.
>
>• Assuming you are talking only about the NT, not even close since that
>conclusion is consistent with the title pages and the syntax ****fts.
AGAIN, in the minds of some. Not in the minds of all.
AGAIN
Point made, point already responded to.
>
>> Which point many of us don't get! If you don't wish to believe
>> Christianity or the Bible, you of course have that choice.
>
>• I am not an all or nothing person. My guess is that some parts of
the
>bible are pretty much accurate. However, the biblical story of Mr. Lott
>impregnating not just one but Both of his virgin daughters and
remembering
>not is a undoubtedly so much rot.
Wow! So... you sound like you're an authority. You sound like you
might be THE authority.
I've never heard of you!
Also, I find the treatment of the
>Midianites who surrendered to Moses' army (Numbers:31) to be nothing
short
>of vomitory.
Last I heard, the Bible is not compulsory reading.
john w
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Subject: Re: St ****o injured in fish and chip shop incident
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:21:32 -0700
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:04:40 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:30:46 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox) wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>In article <fpo6935uirii30ag9ln8v8sssvnftgjg6p@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>>><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I myself was a battered husband.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Incidentally how come she ended up with the restraining order and
custody?
>>>
>>>Seems the Court viewed the evidence differently
>>
>> The court didn't "view the evidence", period!
>>
>> And I wonder why you seem so extremely interested!!
>>
>> What's up with that?
>>
>> You know, as obsessed as you are with me, it's either puppy love, or
>> you are psychotic!
>>
>> Either is sad.
>
>Yes, you are.
Why don't you just killfile him and be done with it?
Why don't you killfile me and be done with it?
My answer: Because you both entertain me!
john w
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Subject: Re: Here's an idea John....
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:56:59 -0700
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:59:10 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
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>
>
>John, if you have so much trouble with what I say, then do as Robyn
>suggested and don't read my posts ! Kill file me and forget it ! Just
>a friendly reminder that you always have a choice !
>
>
> Rod
You might JUST consider one issue, Rod.
Robyn isn't trying to help. She's an obnoxious atheist/witch troll
who is a busy-body and who is in here attempting to do one thing:
stir things up.
On the other hand, I was actually-- as little as I think of you --
trying to do something nice and HELP you.
You have AGAIN made it quite clear that you aren't interested in
"help", particularly if it's in ANY form that *I* might offer.
Let's say you drive your car off the road into a levy and you find
yourself over your head in water and sinking fast. The last thing you
do is yell for help, and I happen to hear you.
As I go into action, attempting to do something nice, to help save
your life, you notice it's me.
You say, "Never mind! I'll figure something ELSE out! You can be on
your way!"
You wouldn't accept my help if you were drowning!
"Fair enough."
As for not reading your posts, I'll read what I please.
Which leaves you a choice. You can choose to not read my posts.
I also note that Robyn didn't offer any constructive solutions
herself; all she offers is criticism.
--
I am also not having problems with what you say; I'd say the reverse
is true.
I say "A", you perceive "Z", "R," and "Q,".
john w
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: A reminder for Mr. Weatherly
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:14:12 -0700
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>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
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>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:26:47 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:24:08 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> Col Sneak wrote:
>>>>>> John Henry wrote:
>>>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:32:35 -0400, Peter Winslow
<peter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>>> You stated that Elaine had committed a criminal act in posting
what
>>>>>>>>> she concerning your actions and said she said she would reveal
>>>>>>>>> personal, private information on the newsgroups about you.
>>>>>>>>> I found the original post.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here it is:
>>>>>>>>> Subject was 'Okay Liar Johnnie"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The JIG IS UP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know EXACTLY where you live, and what kind of a facility
you're in.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Either YOU stop your shenanigans here, Or I WILL post the
source
>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You've been successfully tracked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not stalking you, by any means .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But-- I DID want to find what kind of home status you dwell
in, and
>>>>>>>>> now I know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> GOVERN YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I see nowhere she has committed any crime,
>>>>>>>> In which case, you do not see.
>>>>>>>> As a non-American "alien", you are obviously NOT aware of
American
>>>>>>>> law; nor is your bunkmate, Elaine (your alter ego, no doubt)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NOT my problem! But now you have made Elaine's problem YOUR
problem!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you were aware of American law, you would be aware of the
crime(s)
>>>>>>>> Elaine has committed SEVERAL times.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but I do gather that you live
>>>>>>>>> in some sort of custodial home setting.
>>>>>>>> You "gather" incorrectly.
>>>>>>>>> I intend to delve further into this, and if I find out, I will
be
>>>>>>>>> contacting the management of the home.
>>>>>>>> LOL!!
>>>>>>>> rotflmao
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your behavior and posting of threats must come to a close.
>>>>>>>> I see that you have now joined Elaine in extorting and
blackmailing
>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tsk tsk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Start digging into my personal information, pal, and you will
face the
>>>>>>>> same legal consequences of your galpal, bunkmake.
>>>>>>> A. It's on the Internet.
>>>>>>> B. You put it there.
>>>>>>> C. It's no longer personal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you didn't want people to know that you live/lived at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 621 S. King St. #325
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 800 Jefferson St.,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then you should not have put it out there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why did you do that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #1 Money
>>>>>>> #2 ***
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you were still calling yourself a Christian, even back then,
now
>>>>>>> weren't you?
>>>>>> Now he'll think the "Col" posted his addy, slow john doesn't have
the IQ
>>>>>> to see it was him who did it!
>>>>> You wouldn't even have his information had he not first posted it
>>>>> himself, and even if he hadn't posted it, who could even begin to
>>>>> believe him now, considering his reputation as a liar?
>>>> Again, asshole John H, there are reputations, and there are
>>>> reputations. And this sort of activity on YOUR part will never earn
>>>> you the reputation of "Christian gentleman."
>>> How many raised hands do you see of those here who consider you a
>>> "Christian gentleman?" Precisely how many, john w?
>>
>> Why do you persist in this delusional, psychotic one, that the
>> opinions of anyone "here" matter?
>
>So you give me your opinion to say that opinions don't matter? Good
>one, john w, good one.
Sorry that you find a rational thought impossible to follow!
>>
>> sheens!
>
>LOL! What???
>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I am assuming at this point from 5 years of knowing of you by the
>>>> stink you project, being known as a Christian and a gentleman aren't
>>>> on your agenda!
>>> Assuming=speculation=guesswork=no facts.
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> But, I AM doing one thing on your behalf, John H! I AM praying
daily
>>>> that I will some day become as perfect as you think YOu are!
>>> Rather than mocking God with that prayer, why not honor Him with a
>>> prayer for me such as our very namesake suggested in 1 John 5:16?
>>> Unless, of course, you think that my sin is unto death, in which case
do
>>> not pray for that.
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>>> JohnH
>>>>>> Col Sneak
>>>>>> SBArmy
>>
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>
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Subject: Re: A reminder for Mr. Weatherly
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:12:39 -0700
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>Robibnikoff wrote:
>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote
>>
>> snip
>>> Pete, save yourself some grief. You are not the first to come along
>>> who tried to have me committed or imprisoned.
>>
>> And haven't you ever wondered why that's the case?
>
>Have you given Pete the death-threat that john w made upon your person?
> That one post alone should raise law enforcement's eyebrows in
Seattle.
I didn't make a death threat on Robib.
And AGAIN, John, you are a pathetic, pathological liar.
>
>John Henry
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Subject: Re: To little, to late
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:11:30 -0700
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:56:43 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:52:14 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> short-bus liar-johnnie whined and moaned:
>>
>>> You punch me, you slap me, you kick me in the balls, you bite me;
>>> you call me every low name you can think of: homo, coward, idiot,
>>> insane... and those are the nice ones,
>>>
>>> and then you come up with this cause...
>>>
>>> And you ask for my help.
>>>
>> Where did he?
>
> Elaine, I just simply asked him to go, look, and sign up to help
^ ^ ^
Rod, AGAIN, you just admitted to asking me to go and look and sing
up and help...
>others and himself. I did not ask a favor of him OR request personal
>help from him.
???? NOW you are backtracking. NOW you say, you didn't ask for a
PERSONAL favor.
I never said you asked me for "a personal favor."
You are SUCH a liar!
And now he's having a fit because
I'm not having a fit!
You said you didn't ask me for anything!
Yes, you did!
I asked him to do something
^ ^ You "asked me to do something."
for someone else and himself. This wouldn't be a personal
>favor to me,
You have now changed the subject.
You are a liar!
but it would mean the difference between life and death
>for many seniors and homeless peoples.
>
> I thought he would have the decency to put his anger aside for the
>helpless and ignore
You have now changed the subject and lied AGAIN.
I can certainly get involved in helping people without following
YOUR instructions to the letter!
If I came in here and asked YOU, "Rod, I need you to do something for
me", and I pointed to a link, and I asked you to go sign a petition
"for me."
I am betting donuts that you'd say, "John, I wouldn't scratch my nose
for YOU!"
the fact that it is me that brought it up, but that
>is expecting to much.
>
That's crap, and you can stop the pity party!
You wouldn't walk outside to see if the sun is ****ning if I asked
you to.
But you're cool with asking me for something.
Meaning, you don't think I could REMOTELY come up with a worthy
cause. But you can!
>
> Rod
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:45:42 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:41:43 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:20:03 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:20:01 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:31:24 -0400, Bible Bob
<biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:17:36 -0700, john w <johnw<no>
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:24:24 -0500, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of
this post
>>>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>>>>> To little, to late.........
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've wanted to publish this piece for a very long time,
and I haven't
>>>>>>>>>>> done it
>>>>>>>>>>> because of the potential of reprisals against my family, but
more and more
>>>>>>>>>>> I am seeing the same things happening to others that I'll
mention here, and
>>>>>>>>>>> it isn't worth the price these people are paying for my
silence. I have
>>>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>>> friends that are senior citizens, republican, democrat and
independent that
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> made the mistake of voting in the present administration and
many of the
>>>>>>>>>>> congressmen now serving. And for the last 50 years they have
been wi****ng
>>>>>>>>>>> they could take it all back. I have friends that cannot
afford to pay for
>>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>>> trans****tation or food for themselves because they have to
pay for medicine
>>>>>>>>>>> and health care. One of my friends is an ex truck driver as I
am, and he
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>>> drive any longer due to a heart condition known as atrial
fibrillation, or
>>>>>>>>>>> some know
>>>>>>>>>> As nicely as I can put this, I am assuming this is a rough
draft
>>>>>>>>>> (notes) rather than a final "publishable" work. It is not
publishable
>>>>>>>>>> in this form in any publication you'd want it seen in.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> While I agree with little that you've said, all ideas merit
>>>>>>>>>> consideration by the widest possible audience.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I therefore would STRONGLY encourage you to run this by a
professional
>>>>>>>>>> writer/editor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do NOT offer my services simply because I'm sure, with the
anger and
>>>>>>>>>> hate you have expressed to me, I'm the last person you'd ask.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As friendly as I can put it-- as a professional whether you
choose to
>>>>>>>>>> believe that or not-- as a writer, it IS in my interest that
you
>>>>>>>>>> understand this thing needs work, and that if you wish it
published,
>>>>>>>>>> you should seek a professional to help you polish it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You haven't even spell-checked it, which is basic.
>>>>>>>>>> Your grammar is basically non-existent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (and I am making a huge effort to be kind)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why do I care? I care about good writing, and you've obviously
put
>>>>>>>>>> some time into this!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Once it's "polished", get to the local library, pick up a copy
of the
>>>>>>>>>> current "Writer's Guide to Book Editors, Publishers, and
Literary
>>>>>>>>>> Agents"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peruse that "Bible" for information on where and how to submit
it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> john w
>>>>>>>>> jw,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where is your compassion for your fellow humans?
>>>>>>>> You don't need to worry about my issues, BB!
>>>>>>>> You need to worry about your own.
>>>>>>>> But-- frankly-- as I have said before--
>>>>>>>> #1 Rod isn't interested in my help
>>>>>>> I know people that need your help AND your vote
>>>>>>> will make a difference !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Several of us, former republicans, democrats, greens,
libertarians
>>>>>>> are banding togather as a force to stop the major parties in
there
>>>>>>> tracks and take back our country.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You won't find a single person in the entire group that isn't
>>>>>>> able to understand what happening to our country and our
people !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you, or anyone you know wants to take a bite out of
corruption
>>>>>>> and greed, www.unity08.com is a place to start for all the
info
>>>>>>> you cam swallow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I signed up with them because they are people that want to go
>>>>>>> where I am wanting to go, or I wouldn't sup****t them. I need
>>>>>>> them as much as they need me, no one can do this alone....
>>>>>> You punch me, you slap me, you kick me in the balls, you bite
me;
>>>>> Bite you ? No.....that would be like biting a cloth bag
>>>>> filled with dirt....
>>>> Teaching a lesson-- making a point-- using metaphor, stupid
person!
>>>> I don't believe anyone BUT you took that EXACTLY literally!
>>>>
>>>> I also note that INSTEAD of responding to my point about your
>>>> VICIOUS verbal attacks, you choose -- instead -- to very childishly
>>>> attack how I said the point I made!
>>>>
>>>> "mature!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> you call me every low name you can think of: homo, coward, idiot,
>>>>>> insane... and those are the nice ones,
>>>>> And it's YOU are innocent of those things as well, eh ????
>>>> So, what you're saying is, that rather than responding (being
>>>> responsible) for the accusations (all true) that I made about you,
you
>>>> say "Well, look at what YOU did!"
>>>>
>>>> You will never get proper psychiatric help until you admit you
have
>>>> rage issues.
>>>>
>>>> I have LONG since admitted my anger issues and am being treated.
>>>> There are very few people in here who don't have unresolved anger
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>> That very thing all by itself will twist your world and your world
>>>> view, and it will eventually KILL you!
>>>>
>>>> Every day you live your life in denial of your rage is a day you
>>>> very deliberately SHORTEN your life by REFUSING to seek or accept
>>>> help.
>>>>
>>>> I very kindly offered to forget the **** storm you've sent MY way,
>>>> and to try to "help you get your ""message"" out!"
>>>>
>>>> What did you do? YOu attacked me!
>>> I corrected you.
>>
>> You "corrected" nothing! I didn't say anything that was
>> incorrect.
>
>
> I was under the impression from your post that you were thinking it
> was a literary work,
Why would you think that? Why would you be "under that
impression?" I didn't say one single word about "literary."
I can say "I loved that apple pie! "
You then come back with " Where did you get cherry
tarts?"
?????????
(sincerely), you should take a look at being examined, and perhaps
getting some meds (this is NOT a slam). I had MAJOR problems
processing information (like you're doing) before I was diagnosed
bi-polar.
When you ASSUME a GREAT deal (you do it a lot), that is a symptom of
bi-polar disorder. It's also called "a severe learning disability."
Mine was SEVERELY improved / RADICALLY ? when I was
1. diagnosed
2. put on the right chemicals (we produce chemicals or we
don't. I have to take the chemicals my body doesn't manufacture)
)
I did not want you misled about why I posted
> it, thats all......that is why I tried to correct you.
You didn't mislead me.
AGAIN, Rod, I am quite able to look past the **** storms of
our past, even our recent past. I certainly have contributed my
share.
And as a trained writer, who has made a BUNDLE as a professional
author (Boeing, Microsoft, DOD, NASA, Army, Navy), I tried to advise
you.
I am NOT interested enough in what you had to say (we simply don't
agree) to take on your project and give it justice.
(If someone had written a 10-page article on the capture and
cooking and eating of children, I wouldn't be interested, either)
But since your ideas are not REPUGNANT to me, as is ^ ^ my
example,
I offered to HELP.
If you'd get over yourself, and if you'd beat the bushes for a
friend/acquaintance who is INTERESTED in your topic (I'm not), and who
is COMPETENT with the written language, it is publishable (you'd find
some "free press" somewhere).
If you want the widest possible audience, you need to CLEAN it up,
so professionals (like me) see you BOTHERED, and then if it's
published, and you get ANY notice, it could be picked up by a dozen
other pubs in a week's time, and you'd have interested parties
knocking down your door with help.
"or not."
At LEAST, if YOU believe in it, it's worth a shot, is it not?
NO ONE said diddly about it "being of literary merit".
I'm not talking about publi****ng it in "The New Yorker".
I'm talking about an Op/Ed piece in the Sunday Chicago Tribune.
Except you
What WAS said is that no REAL publication is going to look at it
twice until it's polished beyond what a 3rd grader would "dash onto
paper."
(not meant as a shot, but I was writing at a higher level by 7th
grade!)
NOW, if all else fails, and if you will take a 2nd look, and you will
agree that you can't find anyone to look at it,
I'll set up a phony e-mail account JUST for YOU, and I'll do my
best to help you.
AGAIN, I don't recommend ME, because I'd be too apt to CHANGE it so
that I'd AGREE with it. I don't agree with MOST of it.
But if you get in a pinch, let me know.
That is sincere; I'm not pulling your leg.
If you can IGNORE Elaine's rants awhile (she would LOVE to
discourage anyone from seeking my help) ???
If you need me, I'll try to get past my dislike of you and HELP.
>
>
>>
>> However, you continue to stomp your foot and DEMAND, "We'll do it
>> MY way, DAMNIT! Or we won't do it at all!"
>
> It isn't that way at all.
That's how you are coming across, to SEVERAL of us, including, it
seems Terrell.
"That's not what *I* had in mind!" "It's only a ***** *****! NOT
an article!"
Whether you like or not, you wrote an article.
The presentation is CRAP, but you are trying to express some
ideas.
Why not do it RIGHT?
There are quite a few in here who have never published a DAMN thing;
I made my living (more or less) for 30 years on my writing.
I can't guarantee that you'll be published, but I'll be willing to
make the ATTEMPT to render it "publishable."
If you want PROOF of what I'm saying, pick up a copy of "Writers
Guide" that I mentioned earlier. If you flip through it, there are
rules for having your writing published.
They include
1 "polished" (grammar, spelling, punctuation)
You don't know any of the above.
2 form (if it doesn't look "right", forget it)
I can put it in form (as can 100 other pros), I can polish it.
Those are "basics".
You don't drive your car without oil, gas, water, air in the
tires.
You don't publish without observing "the protocol."
>
>>
>> I offered you what help I had to offer. It is only YOU who have
>> decided that what you had to say isn't worth reading.
>
> You're flying off into a fit again John,
Kindly don't project. I am not having a fit. If I sound emphatic,
call it my "passion." I BELIEVE in me!
getting all worked up
> over nothing !
Why do you keep calling what you wrote "nothing?"
Do you insult YOURSELF often?
Further on down this post you make a comment
> about rage issues, perhaps you should apply it to yourself.
I am very aware that I have rage issues. My admitting that doesn't
help YOU deal with YOUR rage issues.
And now we are right back to YOUR rage issues.
>
>>
>> "fine!"
>>
>> I didn't want to be deceived into believing it was
>>> a literary work,
>>
>> You quite simply can't accept the opinions of others.
>
> Damn you're twisted !
>
>
>> SEVERAL of us
>> suggested that your "notes" could be turned into an article and place
>> for MILLIONS to read.
>
> And I will consider it, but I am not the one that should do that.
For
> maximum effect it should be done by a pro.
Good GRIEF! Go back and re-read what I have now written in
half-a-dozen posts.
Find someone you know (someone you can TRUST) who has a
professional background in professional WRITING.
How many times must I say that before you get it?
Or do you simply have to PRETEND that you said "writing pro" first?
It might be a one shot
> deal only, so for the needy's sake it deserves it's best chance.
I can just about PROMISE you, if it's published once, it will
LIKELY be picked up by a WIRE service, a syndicate, or a chain, and it
will go world-wide.
("wire service" means UPI, AP, Reuters) Syndicate: The Times
Chain, the Tribune Chain.
>
>>
>> You refused, because "that wasn't YOUR idea!"
>
> I didn't refuse anything, you're hearing voices in your head
> again, Einstein !
Have you said "Yes!" yet?
You have not !!!
What you HAVE done is to argue that "it's not good
enough!"
That's called "REFUSING!"
Have you had it polished and submitted to a major
publication?
You have NOT!
That's called "Refusing!"
>
>
>
>> That doesn't mean the idea doesn't haev merit, it's just not how YOU
>> choose to proceed!
>>
>> "Fair enough!" Count me OUT!
>>
>> because from my point of view it isn't.
>>
>> And-- once again-- to put the point on the pencil,
>>
>> ONLY YOUR point of view matters!
>
> This is what I mean about talking with a crazy man, the frustration
> knows absolutely no limits ! Who the hell are you talking with now ?
If you are going to call me "a crazy man" merely because you
don't get what I am saying to you,
We're done!
>
> What the hell do you need me for ? You can talk with yourself
At the moment, seems I AM talking with myself!
You have spent some 5 posts telling us all about this issue that
you want to tell the WORLD!
Several of us have chimed in to tell you how to do that!
You keep saying, "NO! I'm not going to do that!
Now ABOVE, you say, "it would need a PROFESSIONAL to go over
it."
Which both Terrell and I said to you 5 POSTS ago!
You are BROADCASTING on all channels, but
You aren't RECEIVING on ANY!
> and get the results that please YOU !
>
>
>>
>>
>> 10 professionals could advise you on how to proceed, (and several
>> did).
>>
>> But that's not what YOU intended, so we can all go to hell!
>
> I did not have that attitude or say those things at all.
You keep refusing to get it published and to do what is
required to get it published,
and then you blame OTHERS because "you aren't being heard!"
The
> only reason I see me repeating myself is because you're on a
> tirade again
What tirade? Trying to communicate with you on
how to get your ideas published and in front of 10 million readers is
a tirade?
and I have the misguided hope that you'll eventually
> hear what I've said. Fat chance, eh ??
>
>
>
>>
>> Fair enough! I am no longer involved! For the 10th time!
>
> I've had enough of this insanity for this week. You just keep
> your nutty conversations with your imaginary me to yourself,
> and I'll contact your case worker and show him /her/it these
> posts.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Go back and
>>> read the post again !
>>
>> I've read it several times, and I -- as well as several others--
>> felt the idea deserved a wider audience.
>
> And I am not refusing to do that ! I said I would consider it
> and I am doing that !
>
>
>
>>
>> Bottom line, Rod,
>>
>> No matter the topic,
>> "Rod MUST BE RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!"
>>
>>
>> I won't send you a bill!
>
>
> Thats a true statement ! You can take that bill, set it on
> fire, and poke the coals up your shriveled ass ! I wouldn't
> hire you to walk my dog let alone write something ! I'm afraid
> what I started with would end up being a piece about a depraved
> inmate of a retirement home raping wildlife or molesting insects,
> and that is about what I would expect from a guy like you. You
> really want a gig ? Submit something to Hustler, Penthouse or
> Raunchy magazine, thats more your writing style, and I'm sure
> your work would have a pervert like Flint drooling at light
> speed.
>
> You may have the skills, but with your mindset I don't believe
> you could hire out to write orders in a sandwich shop !
>
>
> Goodnight, Weatherly !
>
>
> Rod
>
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:21 -0700, r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(•R L Measures) wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <hnkd93hbfdr5qo9e942ktqh792jsu18jlv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:17:55 -0700, r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(•R L Measures) wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>> >In article <h90d93l0c04h9pscoqtu7jhlmulna18n8s@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> ><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >
>> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:28:49 -0700, r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(•R L Measures)
wrote:
>> >> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>> >> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>> >> >In article <ObydnfR6xO2hsQvbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Jim"
>> >> ><jim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "arah" <arah1958@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote (in part)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Conclusion
>> >> >> > The Church recognises the Bible as the primary source of
knowledge
>> >> >> > about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes it clear that
Jesus is
>> >> >> > not the Supreme Being and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon
what
>> >> >> > basis have you come to believe otherwise?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The belief that the Supreme Being is a Trinity is false and
completely
>> >> >> > inconsistent with the words of Jesus as presented in the
Bible. God is
>> >> >> > one, not three. He is a perfect unity.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm sorry, Arah, but your conclusion only shows your ignorance
of
>both the
>> >> >> Holy Bible and the faith of the Christian church. Since the New
>Testament
>> >> >> Scriptures are written entirely by the Christian church
foaunders (the
>> >> >> apostles chosen by Jesus Christ Himself) ...
>> >> >
>> >> >** It is my opinion that none of the presently accepted
scriptures that
>> >> >comprise the NT were written by an apostle of the itinerant 1st
century
>> >> >rabbi who called himself "the Son of man."
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >** "Unlearned in history, they allow themselves to be governed by
the
>> >> >Unknown Past."
>> >> >Historian John Acton
>> >>
>> >> Then you, and the "historian" would both be wrong!
>> >>
>> >** Whistling in the dark.
>>
>> I still trust my sources more than yours.
>> I wonder if your "historian", "John Acton" reads Hebrew or Greek.
>> I bet he does not!
>
>• Acton's aphorism was not specific, it applied to all those who allow
>themselves to be goverened without investigating things. At one time, I
>presumed that the book of John was written by the disciple John and that
>the book of Matthew was written by the disciple Matthew, but I no longer
>believe they were.
Ok.
And yet, I DO know that many Bible scholars DO accept the author****p
of 99% of the books as it is recorded in those books.
It's a very modern, very liberal view to believe that those whose
names are attached didn't write the books attributed to them.
And the view has but one goal. To discredit the Bible.
Which point many of us don't get! If you don't wish to believe
Christianity or the Bible, you of course have that choice.
But if you don't want to be a Boy Scout, I see no reason for you to
choose to burn down the Boy Scout HQ!
How about leaving it along for those who DO with to believe and
participate?
Nextly, you will never prove who wrote the books, or who didn't.
The title page to each and the syntax ****fts are good
>clues that these are accounts of people who heard John speak and
accounts
>of those who heard Matthew speak,
But as far as the "voice" changing, a number of OTHER authors whose
works ARE known have had their writing analyzed (including me), and
depending on the day, the mood, and the topic, the writing of the same
author CHANGES.
AND, if Peter's assistant took dictation, and if Mark's assistant did
as well, and if Paul's assistant did, too, that would account for the
"****ft."
as told to a number of scribes. Most NT
>scholars presently agree with that scenario.
So you decide the truth by popular vote?
I don't think so. I'd have to know FAR more about those voicing their
views!
I believe your standard of "authority" is very low.
john w
>
>cheers
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Subject: Re: To little, to late
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:52:43 -0700
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:56:38 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:52:14 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>short-bus liar-johnnie whined and moaned:
>
>> You punch me, you slap me, you kick me in the balls, you bite me;
>>you call me every low name you can think of: homo, coward, idiot,
>>insane... and those are the nice ones,
>>
>> and then you come up with this cause...
>>
>> And you ask for my help.
>>
>Where did he?
I guess you missed that paragraph, Elaine.
He posted a link to ME, and asked me to go and sign in and sign the
petition.
> You also claimed 'you never attempted to 'correct his Grammar'/ - yet
>here is your original squawk:
You stupid person! I didn't correct one bit of his grammar! I said
he needed to fix it!
>
>" As nicely as I can put this, I am assuming this is a rough draft
>(notes) rather than a final "publishable" work. It is not publishable
>in this form in any publication you'd want it seen in.
>
>I therefore would STRONGLY encourage you to run this by a professional
>writer/editor.
>
>As friendly as I can put it-- as a professional whether you choose to
>believe that or not-- as a writer, it IS in my interest that you
>understand this thing needs work, and that if you wish it published,
>you should seek a professional to help you polish it.
>
>You haven't even spell-checked it, which is basic.
>Your grammar is basically non-existent."
>
>
>> "You gotta be kidding!"
>>
>> I wouldn't help YOU row a life raft!
>>
>Real 'Christian' attitude you have there,
You know nothing about a "Christian attitude!"
john w
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Subject: Re: To little, to late
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:50:47 -0700
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:41:43 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:20:03 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:20:01 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:31:24 -0400, Bible Bob
<biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:17:36 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:24:24 -0500, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>>> To little, to late.........
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've wanted to publish this piece for a very long time, and
I haven't
>>>>>>>>> done it
>>>>>>>>> because of the potential of reprisals against my family, but
more and more
>>>>>>>>> I am seeing the same things happening to others that I'll
mention here, and
>>>>>>>>> it isn't worth the price these people are paying for my
silence. I have
>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>> friends that are senior citizens, republican, democrat and
independent that
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> made the mistake of voting in the present administration and
many of the
>>>>>>>>> congressmen now serving. And for the last 50 years they have
been wi****ng
>>>>>>>>> they could take it all back. I have friends that cannot afford
to pay for
>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>> trans****tation or food for themselves because they have to pay
for medicine
>>>>>>>>> and health care. One of my friends is an ex truck driver as I
am, and he
>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>> drive any longer due to a heart condition known as atrial
fibrillation, or
>>>>>>>>> some know
>>>>>>>> As nicely as I can put this, I am assuming this is a rough draft
>>>>>>>> (notes) rather than a final "publishable" work. It is not
publishable
>>>>>>>> in this form in any publication you'd want it seen in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While I agree with little that you've said, all ideas merit
>>>>>>>> consideration by the widest possible audience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I therefore would STRONGLY encourage you to run this by a
professional
>>>>>>>> writer/editor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do NOT offer my services simply because I'm sure, with the
anger and
>>>>>>>> hate you have expressed to me, I'm the last person you'd ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As friendly as I can put it-- as a professional whether you
choose to
>>>>>>>> believe that or not-- as a writer, it IS in my interest that you
>>>>>>>> understand this thing needs work, and that if you wish it
published,
>>>>>>>> you should seek a professional to help you polish it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You haven't even spell-checked it, which is basic.
>>>>>>>> Your grammar is basically non-existent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (and I am making a huge effort to be kind)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do I care? I care about good writing, and you've obviously
put
>>>>>>>> some time into this!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once it's "polished", get to the local library, pick up a copy
of the
>>>>>>>> current "Writer's Guide to Book Editors, Publishers, and
Literary
>>>>>>>> Agents"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peruse that "Bible" for information on where and how to submit
it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> john w
>>>>>>> jw,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where is your compassion for your fellow humans?
???
As if what he accuses us of is something we'd deny??
john
w
>
>So again I point out that I have never posted on Usenet with anything
>other than my normal identity. I have not hid behnd pseudonyms and
>about the only thing that has changed has been my email address since
>I've used about 3 or 4 different ISP's since I started using computer
>communications requiring a service provider many, many years ago. As I
>stated before, I couldn't care less if you believe it or not. I still
>invite you and anyone else who wishes to, to visit my website and my
>blog for whatever it's worth.
>
>May God bless,
>Carl
>my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
>my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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